Hi,
We're running some web apps on CentOS 6 on Tomcat 6 shipped by the distribution.
As time goes by we'd like to move on to CentOS 8 and Tomcat 9 or whatever is appropriate.
My question is, what do others use now that Tomcat is not shipped anymore with CentOS?
Do you run some JBoss/WildFly instead or still running Tomcat?
And, how do you install/manage those installations. Do you have RPM packaged versions or fiddle with tarballs?
Since this is a quite standard setup for web apps I'm really wondering how everybody is doing it these days?
Thanks, Simon
Hi,
We're running some web apps on CentOS 6 on Tomcat 6 shipped by the distribution.
As time goes by we'd like to move on to CentOS 8 and Tomcat 9 or whatever is appropriate.
My question is, what do others use now that Tomcat is not shipped anymore with CentOS?
Do you run some JBoss/WildFly instead or still running Tomcat?
And, how do you install/manage those installations. Do you have RPM packaged versions or fiddle with tarballs?
Since this is a quite standard setup for web apps I'm really wondering how everybody is doing it these days?
Anybody care to comment? I can't believe nobody's running Java servlet containers on CentOS since it's a very common way to provide webservices.
I've just checked our FreeBSD box and it provides:
root@freebsd:~ # pkg search tomcat tomcat-native-1.2.23 Tomcat native library tomcat7-7.0.92 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 7.x branch tomcat85-8.5.54 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 8.5.x branch tomcat9-9.0.34 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 9.0.x branch tomcat-devel-10.0.0.M4 Open-source Java web server by Apache, 10.0.x branch
root@freebsd:~ # pkg search wildfly wildfly90-9.0.2_2 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly10-10.1.0_2 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly11-11.0.0_1 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly12-12.0.0_1 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly13-13.0.0_1 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly14-14.0.1 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly15-15.0.1 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly16-16.0.0 Replacement for JBoss Application Server wildfly17-17.0.1 WildFly is a Java Jakarta EE8 application server developed by Red Hat wildfly18-18.0.1 WildFly is a Java Jakarta EE8 application server developed by Red Hat
Additionally there are also packages of Geronimo and Glassfish as alternatives.
If I don't find usable RPMs for CentOS 8 I'm going to build our own as I do for other things as well. But I just can't believe they don't already exist.
Regards, Simon
--On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:35 PM +0200 Simon Matter via CentOS centos@centos.org wrote:
If I don't find usable RPMs for CentOS 8 I'm going to build our own as I do for other things as well. But I just can't believe they don't already exist.
Some upstream providers have taken to providing their own repositories. I'm now getting Nginx, MariaDB, and PostgreSQL from the source that way. Perhaps Tomcat has its own upstream repo.
--On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:35 PM +0200 Simon Matter via CentOS centos@centos.org wrote:
If I don't find usable RPMs for CentOS 8 I'm going to build our own as I do for other things as well. But I just can't believe they don't already exist.
Some upstream providers have taken to providing their own repositories. I'm now getting Nginx, MariaDB, and PostgreSQL from the source that way. Perhaps Tomcat has its own upstream repo.
But then why would you want to use CentOS for it or even pay for RHEL if you can have all this packaged nicely in FreeBSD? Plus, as a long term Unix and Linux user I feel much more at home on FreeBSD these days than I feel on CentOS 7 or 8. Even Fedora provides Tomcat 9 which I'm calling an enterprise feature. How can an enterprise distribution lack such an important and widely used feature?
Regards, Simon
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 03:16:45PM +0200, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote:
But then why would you want to use CentOS for it or even pay for RHEL if you can have all this packaged nicely in FreeBSD? Plus, as a long term Unix and Linux user I feel much more at home on FreeBSD these days than I feel on CentOS 7 or 8. Even Fedora provides Tomcat 9 which I'm calling an enterprise feature. How can an enterprise distribution lack such an important and widely used feature?
Upstream (RHEL) supports JBoss (aka WildFly) which is probably why it's not packaging Tomcat anymore.
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 7:35 PM Simon Matter via CentOS centos@centos.org wrote:
If I don't find usable RPMs for CentOS 8 I'm going to build our own as I do for other things as well. But I just can't believe they don't already exist.
I've packaged tomcat8 and tomcat9 in my repo here: https://harbottle.gitlab.io/harbottle-main/8/x86_64/
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 7:35 PM Simon Matter via CentOS centos@centos.org wrote:
If I don't find usable RPMs for CentOS 8 I'm going to build our own as I do for other things as well. But I just can't believe they don't already exist.
I've packaged tomcat8 and tomcat9 in my repo here: https://harbottle.gitlab.io/harbottle-main/8/x86_64/
Thanks, that's a good starting point to look at.
Regards, Simon
On Tue, 28 Apr, 2020 at 11:44:20 +0200, Simon Matter via CentOS wrote:
Hi,
We're running some web apps on CentOS 6 on Tomcat 6 shipped by the distribution.
As time goes by we'd like to move on to CentOS 8 and Tomcat 9 or whatever is appropriate.
My question is, what do others use now that Tomcat is not shipped anymore with CentOS?
Do you run some JBoss/WildFly instead or still running Tomcat?
And, how do you install/manage those installations. Do you have RPM packaged versions or fiddle with tarballs?
Since this is a quite standard setup for web apps I'm really wondering how everybody is doing it these days?
I use the tarball provided by upstream on CentOS 7, since the distro-provided version is quite old. I created a 'tomcat' system user and gave it ownership of the extracted files under /opt. I also wrote a simple systemd unit file to manage the service in the usual way.
If you take that approach be sure to subscribe to the tomcat-announce list in order to receive update announcements.
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