I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
Should I modify my scripts to create and install html files for a web server? That would make article deletion, archiving, and maintenance more difficult than it is with the inn nntp server.
Is there some "forum" type package that would be better than the inn system?
At Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:56:44 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
Should I modify my scripts to create and install html files for a web server? That would make article deletion, archiving, and maintenance more difficult than it is with the inn nntp server.
Is there some "forum" type package that would be better than the inn system?
You could install one of several (open source) CMS packages, that work with a database (MySQL) and a Webserver (Apache) and are generally coded in PHP. WordPress is a fairly simple system that might give you what you want. Not exactly a "forum", but does allow people to 'comment' on blog entries (posts), which might be all you need. It does allow for the site adminstrator to grant authoring privs to other users. And there might be plugins that implement full-fledged forums (I haven't looked). Joomla! is a more comprehensive CMS system and it does have extensions that implement forums.
On 4/27/2011 9:24 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
At Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:56:44 -0400 CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
Should I modify my scripts to create and install html files for a web server? That would make article deletion, archiving, and maintenance more difficult than it is with the inn nntp server.
Is there some "forum" type package that would be better than the inn system?
You could install one of several (open source) CMS packages, that work with a database (MySQL) and a Webserver (Apache) and are generally coded in PHP. WordPress is a fairly simple system that might give you what you want. Not exactly a "forum", but does allow people to 'comment' on blog entries (posts), which might be all you need. It does allow for the site adminstrator to grant authoring privs to other users. And there might be plugins that implement full-fledged forums (I haven't looked). Joomla! is a more comprehensive CMS system and it does have extensions that implement forums.
A wiki works well for this sort of thing too, especially if it has the ability to email notifications about updates. Inn/news does have an advantage in scaling and resource consumption, but the real issue here is retraining the users, especially if they are currently using a combo news/email client that automatically sees new messages posted to a group. I've always wondered if there is a free equivalent of the software running http://news.lugnet.com/ which seems to be simultaneously a web forum, a newsgroup, and an email list, depending on how you access it.
At Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On 4/27/2011 9:24 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
At Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:56:44 -0400 CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
Should I modify my scripts to create and install html files for a web server? That would make article deletion, archiving, and maintenance more difficult than it is with the inn nntp server.
Is there some "forum" type package that would be better than the inn system?
You could install one of several (open source) CMS packages, that work with a database (MySQL) and a Webserver (Apache) and are generally coded in PHP. WordPress is a fairly simple system that might give you what you want. Not exactly a "forum", but does allow people to 'comment' on blog entries (posts), which might be all you need. It does allow for the site adminstrator to grant authoring privs to other users. And there might be plugins that implement full-fledged forums (I haven't looked). Joomla! is a more comprehensive CMS system and it does have extensions that implement forums.
A wiki works well for this sort of thing too, especially if it has the ability to email notifications about updates. Inn/news does have an advantage in scaling and resource consumption, but the real issue here is retraining the users, especially if they are currently using a combo news/email client that automatically sees new messages posted to a group. I've always wondered if there is a free equivalent of the software running http://news.lugnet.com/ which seems to be simultaneously a web forum, a newsgroup, and an email list, depending on how you access it.
I think Mailman might have a news=>mailing list 'gateway' function and I think there are news=>web forum gateway packages 'out there'. It is possible http://news.lugnet.com/ is just a nntp server (eg inn) with some 'addon' packages (eg Mailman).
Robert Heller wrote:
At Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:50:07 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On 4/27/2011 9:24 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
At Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:56:44 -0400 CentOS mailing
listcentos@centos.org wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
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I think Mailman might have a news=>mailing list 'gateway' function and I think there are news=>web forum gateway packages 'out there'. It is possible http://news.lugnet.com/ is just a nntp server (eg inn) with some 'addon' packages (eg Mailman).
I was thinking of a mailing list, myself, when I saw Robert's reply.
mark
Reynolds McClatchey wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
Should I modify my scripts to create and install html files for a web server? That would make article deletion, archiving, and maintenance more difficult than it is with the inn nntp server.
Is there some "forum" type package that would be better than the inn system?
I am a bit out of my waters. Nevertheless, if unable to find an alternative in the NNTP space, something you may want to try is cyrus-imap + shared (readonly) mailboxes + any imap client on the planet
------------------------------------------ Mário Barbosa mario.barbosa@log.pt SysAdmin @ log log <www.log.pt> ------------------------------------------
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:56:44AM -0400, Reynolds McClatchey wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
INN the NNTP server? If that's the one, then you might try leafnode, which should be in rpmforge.
--keith
In article 1303912604.9834.12.camel@reylinux.saf.com, Reynolds McClatchey rey@saf.com wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
The first thing I would try is to install the inn SRPM from either the latest CentOS 5 or Fedora 14 and try rebuilding it:
Either: # rpm -ivh inn-2.4.3-9.el5.src.rpm Or: # rpm -ivh inn-2.5.2-4.fc14.src.rpm Then: # cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS # rpmbuild -ba inn.spec
Then the RPM should be in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386
Cheers Tony
Tony Mountifield wrote:
In article1303912604.9834.12.camel@reylinux.saf.com, Reynolds McClatcheyrey@saf.com wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
The first thing I would try is to install the inn SRPM from either the latest CentOS 5 or Fedora 14 and try rebuilding it:
Either: # rpm -ivh inn-2.4.3-9.el5.src.rpm Or: # rpm -ivh inn-2.5.2-4.fc14.src.rpm Then: # cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS # rpmbuild -ba inn.spec
Then the RPM should be in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386
For the record, you shouldn't build as root. Instead follow these instructions: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetupRpmBuildEnvironment
Also, if you're not changing the SRPM you can simply rpmbuild --rebuild .
Tony Mountifield wrote:
In article 1303912604.9834.12.camel@reylinux.saf.com, Reynolds McClatchey rey@saf.com wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
The first thing I would try is to install the inn SRPM from either the latest CentOS 5 or Fedora 14 and try rebuilding it:
Either: # rpm -ivh inn-2.4.3-9.el5.src.rpm Or: # rpm -ivh inn-2.5.2-4.fc14.src.rpm Then: # cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS # rpmbuild -ba inn.spec
Then the RPM should be in /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386
Cheers Tony
Best course of action should be to contact maintainer of inn for Fedora and ask him to release and maintain RHEL6 version in EPEL.
Ljubomir
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 04:27:47PM +0000, Tony Mountifield wrote:
The first thing I would try is to install the inn SRPM from either the latest CentOS 5 or Fedora 14 and try rebuilding it:
Either: # rpm -ivh inn-2.4.3-9.el5.src.rpm Or: # rpm -ivh inn-2.5.2-4.fc14.src.rpm Then: # cd /usr/src/redhat/SPECS # rpmbuild -ba inn.spec
Best practices call for not building rpm as root. For additional information please take a look at:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/RebuildSRPM
John
In article 20110427185049.GA3290@frodo.gerdesas.com, John R. Dennison jrd@gerdesas.com wrote:
Best practices call for not building rpm as root. For additional information please take a look at:
Thanks for the pointer!
Tony
On 04/27/2011 08:56 AM, Reynolds McClatchey wrote:
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
Quickest solution is to grab the SRPM from Fedora 13 and build it on your RHEL 6 machine. I just tried that on Scientific Linux 6.0, and "rpmbuild -ba" built everything just fine with no changes whatsoever.
I checked the SELinux policy in SL-60, and all the inn stuff seems to be there, so no problem there either.
Tracking updates would of course be up to you if you go that way.
Robert Nichols wrote on 04/27/2011 01:46 PM: ...
Quickest solution is to grab the SRPM from Fedora 13 and build it on your RHEL 6 machine. I just tried that on Scientific Linux 6.0, and "rpmbuild -ba" built everything just fine with no changes whatsoever.
Ditto, except I used
rpmbuild --rebuild inn-2.5.1-5.fc13.src.rpm
As this is not in the distro any longer, it would seem to be a candidate for EPEL, and/or some other repo to pick up.
Phil
In a past life when i was working with IRIX systems, i changed from innd to DNews (http://netwinsite.com/dnews/install.htm, http://netwinsite.com/dnews/faq1.htm#2). Looks like it's been out of development since 2007 (but what's changed nntp-wise since 2007? dunno), but it was a piece of cake to configure and administer.
- csawyer
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Reynolds McClatchey Sent: 27 April 2011 14:57 To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] INN removed from CentOS 6
I use inn to make internal company announcements and discussions available to remote offices. I note inn is removed form RHEL 6. What replaces inn?
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Technical_...
Will inn be available from elsewhere? Will I have to compile it?
Should I modify my scripts to create and install html files for a web server? That would make article deletion, archiving, and maintenance more difficult than it is with the inn nntp server.
Is there some "forum" type package that would be better than the inn system?
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