I am making some progress on my Centos 5 notebook build.
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.
Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there rpms? I did not find anything over at ATrpms.
Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0. Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
Actually, Firefox 2.x irritates the crap out of me with the newer search option. Instead of /foo to search a page for foo and having the option to find it again, you now have to hit ctrl+f, windows style for searching. the /foo still works, but times out quickly and doesn't give you the option to move to the next found location.
I'd say sit tight for a while on the RH version unless there's a feature/plugin you REALLY need/want.
Jim Perrin wrote:
On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0. Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
Actually, Firefox 2.x irritates the crap out of me with the newer search option. Instead of /foo to search a page for foo and having the option to find it again, you now have to hit ctrl+f, windows style for searching. the /foo still works, but times out quickly and doesn't give you the option to move to the next found location.
I'd say sit tight for a while on the RH version unless there's a feature/plugin you REALLY need/want.
OK.
What about Thuderbird 2.0?
Jim Perrin wrote:
On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0. Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
Actually, Firefox 2.x irritates the crap out of me with the newer search option. Instead of /foo to search a page for foo and having the option to find it again, you now have to hit ctrl+f, windows style for searching. the /foo still works, but times out quickly and doesn't give you the option to move to the next found location.
I'd say sit tight for a while on the RH version unless there's a feature/plugin you REALLY need/want.
you can do "/' to search, and if it does finds something the "ctrl" + "f" and it will give you the option to find more. But I agree it is annoying that it doesn't give you the "find next" option when using "/" to search.
-Jean
On 6/26/07, Jean Figarella jfigarella@vecna.com wrote:
Jim Perrin wrote:
On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0. Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
Actually, Firefox 2.x irritates the crap out of me with the newer search option. Instead of /foo to search a page for foo and having the option to find it again, you now have to hit ctrl+f, windows style for searching. the /foo still works, but times out quickly and doesn't give you the option to move to the next found location.
I'd say sit tight for a while on the RH version unless there's a feature/plugin you REALLY need/want.
you can do "/' to search, and if it does finds something the "ctrl" + "f" and it will give you the option to find more. But I agree it is annoying that it doesn't give you the "find next" option when using "/" to search.
-Jean
You'll notice that Ctrl+G does a "Find Next". Always has, even in quick find.
Brian Mathis wrote:
On 6/26/07, Jean Figarella jfigarella@vecna.com wrote:
Jim Perrin wrote:
On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0. Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
Actually, Firefox 2.x irritates the crap out of me with the newer search option. Instead of /foo to search a page for foo and having the option to find it again, you now have to hit ctrl+f, windows style for searching. the /foo still works, but times out quickly and doesn't give you the option to move to the next found location.
I'd say sit tight for a while on the RH version unless there's a feature/plugin you REALLY need/want.
you can do "/' to search, and if it does finds something the "ctrl" + "f" and it will give you the option to find more. But I agree it is annoying that it doesn't give you the "find next" option when using "/" to search.
-Jean
You'll notice that Ctrl+G does a "Find Next". Always has, even in quick find.
Sweet , thanks. that is very helpful.
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On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0. Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
In my experience Fx2.0 is noticeably faster than Fx1.5. Use the tarball's to install Fx2 and Tb2. Its quite straightforward. See option 3 in this post:
http://devhen.wordpress.com/2006/12/18/install-firefox-20-on-fedora-core-6/
Devin
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am making some progress on my Centos 5 notebook build.
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.
Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there rpms? I did not find anything over at ATrpms.
There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?
Some advice would be greatly appreciated.
Axel Thimm wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there rpms? I did not find anything over at ATrpms.
There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?
Those repositories don't have newer FF/TB versions either.
Ralph
Axel Thimm wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am making some progress on my Centos 5 notebook build.
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.
Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there rpms? I did not find anything over at ATrpms.
There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?
Yeah, I noticed no FF/TB at ATrpms, but nowhere else either.
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 08:23 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Axel Thimm wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:37:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am making some progress on my Centos 5 notebook build.
So I am looking at Firefox and Thunderbird 2.0.
Should I install them? Or is Redhat correct that there is nothing improved here and wait for 3.0? (well I have not even had a chance to look at Thunderbird 2.0, that is new)?
I have the install steps we covered here back on 2/2/07; but are there rpms? I did not find anything over at ATrpms.
There are no FF/TB rpms at ATrpms, maybe you mean rpmforge/Dag/plus/extras/karan?
Yeah, I noticed no FF/TB at ATrpms, but nowhere else either.
wrt a firefox 2 (or thunderbird) install ... they are fairly trivial to do with the binaries produced by Mozilla.org.
just download and extract the tarballs from mozilla.org and move the firefox directory (or the thunderbird directory) to /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.x or /usr/lib/thunderbird-2.0.4.
install compat-libstdc++-33 with yum (or compat-libstdc++-296 ... I can't remember which)
if you have firefox 1.5 installed:
mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox.old
Create a symlink similar to this:
ln -s /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.4/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
(you need to to the same for thunderbird ...)
Then you need to take care of any plugins you have installed ... by moving them from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.{version}/plugins to /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.4/plugins/
You need to manage upgrades yourself ... I just download the latest firefox from mozilla and do this again when there are updates.
Note: In CentOS-5, firefox is a required install for other things ... so if firefox-1.5 is installed and updated by yum, you will need to recreate your /usr/bin/firefox symlink to use firefox 2.
I personally use evolution for e-mail and Gran Paradiso (firefox-3 alpha5) as my web browser ...
Trying to replace firefox on CentOS-5 with another RPM is going to be versy problematic as several other packages are built against it in the distribution ... but running 2 versions in parallel is not very hard.
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
On 6/19/07, Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com wrote:
wrt a firefox 2 (or thunderbird) install ... they are fairly trivial to do with the binaries produced by Mozilla.org.
Just as a point of interest -- we have one person here who installed FF2 from the those tarballs on her CentOS 4 machine, and she's been having problems with it crashing every few days. I on the other hand have been running the FF1.5 from the CentOS repos for weeks at a time without any problem -- the only time I restart it is when I upgrade it or have to reboot.
Bart Schaefer wrote:
Just as a point of interest -- we have one person here who installed FF2 from the those tarballs on her CentOS 4 machine, and she's been having problems with it crashing every few days. I on the other hand
I have -- and I'm betting a lot of other folks are -- been running Firefox 2.x from the tarballs on a CentOS machine for long while without any issues.
robert
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