I've been able to view the movie trailers at apple.com/trailers for years on my old Centos box (5.3).
so in July I built a new box and also used Centos 5.3. I recall being able to view them on the new box too, back in July.
now, none of them work on either the old or new box. Firefox by default uses mplayer for this purpose. mplayer starts up, says it's playing it displays the url on the screen for about a half second then stops. over and over again.
I should have all the right plugins since it's worked before.
Is anyone else having trouble with that? or to ask another way, can any of you still watch them?
Thanks!
fred smith wrote:
Hello.
I've been able to view the movie trailers at apple.com/trailers for years on my old Centos box (5.3). [...] Is anyone else having trouble with that? or to ask another way, can any of you still watch them?
Works here with 'User Agent Switcher' for Firefox. See for more under http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1245441&page=4.
regards Olaf
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 06:26:16AM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
fred smith wrote:
Hello.
I've been able to view the movie trailers at apple.com/trailers for years on my old Centos box (5.3). [...] Is anyone else having trouble with that? or to ask another way, can any of you still watch them?
Works here with 'User Agent Switcher' for Firefox. See for more under http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1245441&page=4.
Olaf, thanks for the reply!
While I haven't tried that, I don't think that's the problem I'm having: I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or vlc from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there is no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.
And it fails on the "old" computer where it was working in July (and for the previous several years) as well as the new one.
One more data point: I get the same failures on my eeepc 901 where I've installed Fedora 11, too.
fred smith wrote:
While I haven't tried that,
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I don't think that's the problem I'm having: I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or vlc from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there is no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.
You are completely wrong. Read the link, or read it not, it is your choice.
Here it works with CentOS 5.3.
regards Olaf
Olaf Mueller wrote:
fred smith wrote:
While I haven't tried that,
?
I don't think that's the problem I'm having: I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or vlc from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there is no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.
You are completely wrong. Read the link, or read it not, it is your choice.
Here it works with CentOS 5.3.
regards Olaf
Works here, too.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 07:26:45PM +0200, Olaf Mueller wrote:
fred smith wrote:
While I haven't tried that,
?
I don't think that's the problem I'm having: I can copy and paste the URL of the .mov file into mplayer or vlc from the commandline, and get the exact same symptoms. I.E., there is no browser involved in that transaction but it fails the same way.
You are completely wrong. Read the link, or read it not, it is your choice.
ok, thanks for the kick in the rear. I looked, read thru the entries, checked out the bug report, installed the add-on, set up the user agent entry as described and voila.
Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real business justification could there be?
Thanks!
fred smith wrote:
Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real business justification could there be?
They don't have the opportunity to up sell you to Quicktime pro? Perhaps they have changed it but I recall last time I used Apple Quicktime(I admit it's been years), it would pester you almost all the time to upgrade.
nate
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:43:21PM -0700, nate wrote:
fred smith wrote:
Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real business justification could there be?
They don't have the opportunity to up sell you to Quicktime pro? Perhaps they have changed it but I recall last time I used Apple Quicktime(I admit it's been years), it would pester you almost all the time to upgrade.
Perhaps that's what they're thinking. but if so, they're wrong. Until such time as they offer a native Linux quicktime client I ain't gonna ever use it. they can whine all they want about us open source scumbags trying to freeload, but I'll give up being able to see their trailers before I'll switch to one of their currently-supported operating systems. I'd venture that most of us Linux users feel the same way. So, they're not gaining anything other than ill will by blocking us from viewing.
but hey, some bright person in the community will almost always figure out how to get around such artificial limitations. My thanks to those who figured out this one!
fred smith wrote:
So, they're not gaining anything other than ill will by blocking us from viewing.
Yes. An other example for such a behaviour is Amazon.com. Amazon.com has changed their data API to require that all searches be signed with a secret key, unique to each user. As a result my tellico database in version for kde 3.5 is not working any more.
regards Olaf
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM, fred smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:
Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real business justification could there be?
Apple is weird that way. They tried to do the same thing with the Palm Pre -- keep them from working with iTunes seemlessly. Okay, every iTune Apples sells they make money, so why keep Palm Pre users from making them money? Odd.
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 04:49:32PM -0500, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM, fred smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:
Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real business justification could there be?
Apple is weird that way. They tried to do the same thing with the Palm Pre -- keep them from working with iTunes seemlessly. Okay, every iTune Apples sells they make money, so why keep Palm Pre users from making them money? Odd.
yeah. similar to when Yahoo kept tweaking their messaging protocol to prevent MSN messenger from connecting to it. Or AOL would mess with the AIM protocol to keep GAIM from connecting. and so forth.
On 12.09.2009 at 23:49 Ron Blizzard wrote :
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM, fred smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:
Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real business justification could there be?
Apple is weird that way. They tried to do the same thing with the Palm Pre -- keep them from working with iTunes seemlessly.
Well, I assume they did this because Palm is making money from the Pre, but they probably "forgot" to license iTunes for the use of syncing with the Pre.
I can't blame Apple for being "unhappy" with that. In addition, if they would let Palm get through with that, other companies would soon follow. Maybe at some point, Apple will choose to actually allow that (maybe via some API), but currently this is not the case.
I should say that I do own an iPhone, together with most other people at my workplace (few exceptions, like the boss - but his wife has one) and it does most of the stuff I would have wanted from a Linux-powered phone. Unfortunately, that one never materialized.
Rainer
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 02:30 +0200, Rainer Duffner wrote:
On 12.09.2009 at 23:49 Ron Blizzard wrote :
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM, fred smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:
Doggone those Apple folks. why would they be so stingy as to PREVENT people from using otherwise-compatible players from seeing the trailer? Just doesn't make sense in any way other than sheer meanness. I mean, what real business justification could there be?
Apple is weird that way. They tried to do the same thing with the Palm Pre -- keep them from working with iTunes seemlessly.
Well, I assume they did this because Palm is making money from the Pre, but they probably "forgot" to license iTunes for the use of syncing with the Pre.
I can't blame Apple for being "unhappy" with that. In addition, if they would let Palm get through with that, other companies would soon follow. Maybe at some point, Apple will choose to actually allow that (maybe via some API), but currently this is not the case.
I should say that I do own an iPhone, together with most other people at my workplace (few exceptions, like the boss - but his wife has one) and it does most of the stuff I would have wanted from a Linux-powered phone. Unfortunately, that one never materialized.
---- none of this discussion has anything to do with CentOS but...
Apple is clearly trying to create the illusion of being compatible with other architecture with features such as being a daap server and many other devices such as sling or sonus can interface with the music on iTunes so it only stands to reason that Palm should likewise be able to interface with iTunes.
The issue is that Apple wants to leverage their iTunes/iPod products to induce a sale of their iPhone by preventing other telephone hardware from using their iTunes repository. It is this kind of mentality that makes me think that Apple is every bit as evil as Microsoft. They are deliberately trying to deny you access to your own music if you use a telephone other than Apple's iPhone.
I am wondering if by buying an iPod and committing my music repository to m4a that I haven't made a serious mistake when I see behavior like this from Apple.
Craig
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