on 9-8-2009 4:31 PM David Suhendrik spake the following:
Dear All, I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully this isn't make a flame, and just to curious.. Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'
If you want rock solid stable for up to 7 years, pick CentOS. If you want the latest versions of PHP, Apache, or whatever else, and don't mind re-installing every 6 months to a year, choose Fedora.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Scott Silva ssilva@sgvwater.com wrote:
If you want rock solid stable for up to 7 years, pick CentOS. If you want the latest versions of PHP, Apache, or whatever else, and don't mind re-installing every 6 months to a year, choose Fedora.
Just my $.02... I use CentOS on a number of servers and Fedora on some servers and desktops.
It comes down to what the system will be doing. For the NFS server, where reliability is the main goal, I use CentOS.
For a (virtual) server that runs GLPI and OCS Inventory, I use Fedora. Those applications are part of Fedora, so its very easy to get up and running and keep everything up to date.
For the desktops, its Fedora - the bottom line is Firefox is the most commonly used app, and there's a nice, rather up to date version in Fedora. Lots of useful apps built in (available through yum), which is nice. This was a bigger plus when CentOS was on FF1.5, and Fedora was on FF2.
What I'm working towards is getting everything to be managed and controlled by puppet, so that reinstalling the OS is easy, and switching between Fedora and CentOS (or *gasp* Ubuntu) is easy. The goal is flexibility and resiliency.
Michael Semcheski wrote:
For a (virtual) server that runs GLPI and OCS Inventory, I use Fedora. Those applications are part of Fedora, so its very easy to get up and running and keep everything up to date.
For this particular case, you could use CentOS with the epel and remi (http://blog.famillecollet.com/pages/Config-en) repositories enabled.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, David Suhendrikdavid@pnyet.web.id wrote:
Dear All, I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully this isn't make a flame, and just to curious.. Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'
For me CentOS is just a better choice. I prefer stability to "cutting edge" -- even for my desktop computers (I don't have any servers). I've tried several versions of Fedora -- liked the earlier versions, thought versions 7 through 9 were a bit too "cutting edge," but am impressed with 10 and 11. Still, due to the nature of Fedora, you've got a *lot* of upgrades and I think that would beat me down after a while. If CentOS (or Scientific Linux) didn't exist, I would probably use Fedora.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Ron Blizzardrb4centos@gmail.com wrote:
impressed with 10 and 11. Still, due to the nature of Fedora, you've got a *lot* of upgrades and I think that would beat me down after a
Meant to say "updates" instead of "upgrades."
I wouldn't use Fedora for my servers. It's a great distro for desktop use but I didn't like it's server usage.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, David Suhendrik david@pnyet.web.id wrote:
Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, David Suhendrikdavid@pnyet.web.id david@pnyet.web.id wrote:
Dear All, I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully this isn't make a flame, and just to curious.. Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'
For me CentOS is just a better choice. I prefer stability to "cutting edge" -- even for my desktop computers (I don't have any servers). I've tried several versions of Fedora -- liked the earlier versions, thought versions 7 through 9 were a bit too "cutting edge," but am impressed with 10 and 11. Still, due to the nature of Fedora, you've got a *lot* of upgrades and I think that would beat me down after a while. If CentOS (or Scientific Linux) didn't exist, I would probably use Fedora.
I'm using CentOS with reason same as You, I'm isn't beta tester and won't using tester on productive servers. But sometimes i'm using Fedora repos for upgrade some packages.
Cheers...
Regards, David
./nobody
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, David Suhendrik david@pnyet.web.id wrote:
I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully this isn't make a flame, and just to curious.. Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'
Catching up on reading the list and here are my 2 cents: We started out using Red Hat Linux on our home desktops. Then we tried several versions of Fedora, years ago. Some with excellent results and some with bad results. Using CentOS now and it's a winner. If you have some very recent HW, or a Laptop, you may need to use Fedora, but if not, CentOS is the way to go, IMHO. Test your boxes with a CentOS LiveCD before you do an install onto bare metal, to be sure it will run OK on your HW. If you need the latest and greatest, this isn't the distro you want, but if you want long life, stability and security, this is the way to go.
Lanny Marcus wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, David Suhendrik david@pnyet.web.id wrote:
I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully this isn't make a flame, and just to curious.. Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'
Catching up on reading the list and here are my 2 cents: We started out using Red Hat Linux on our home desktops. Then we tried several versions of Fedora, years ago. Some with excellent results and some with bad results. Using CentOS now and it's a winner. If you have some very recent HW, or a Laptop, you may need to use Fedora, but if not, CentOS is the way to go, IMHO. Test your boxes with a CentOS LiveCD before you do an install onto bare metal, to be sure it will run OK on your HW. If you need the latest and greatest, this isn't the distro you want, but if you want long life, stability and security, this is the way to go.
Unfortunately you often want a different tradeoff between stability and features in the base OS and the applications you use and the way distributions are packaged makes it difficult to get both right all the time. In the first year or maybe even two after a CentOS version is released, the applications aren't two badly out of date. After that, you are happy that your system isn't crashing but you'll start to miss the features that are included in fresher releases and probably start to run into bugs that won't ever have the fixes backed into the old application versions. Sometimes you can find newer versions on 3rd party sites like rpmforge, sometimes you can build your own (both with some risk) and sometimes you just put up with what's there knowing you are years behind current development.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Unfortunately you often want a different tradeoff between stability and features in the base OS and the applications you use and the way distributions are packaged makes it difficult to get both right all the time. In the first year or maybe even two after a CentOS version is released, the applications aren't two badly out of date. After that, you are happy that your system isn't crashing but you'll start to miss the features that are included in fresher releases and probably start to run into bugs that won't ever have the fixes backed into the old application versions. Sometimes you can find newer versions on 3rd party sites like rpmforge, sometimes you can build your own (both with some risk) and sometimes you just put up with what's there knowing you are years behind current development.
The only program that I want to run on CentOS that I can't (or haven't figured out how to do it yet) is Celtx. Everything else that I've thrown at it at has worked out of the box. Of course, that might have something to do with the fact that I have the RPMForge repository set up.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Lanny Marcus lmmailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 6:31 PM, David Suhendrik david@pnyet.web.id wrote:
I'm newbie and i want to know Your opinion about CentOS vs Fedora, hopefully this isn't make a flame, and just to curious.. Actucally now I'm using CentOS as some servers. ^_^'
Catching up on reading the list and here are my 2 cents: We started out using Red Hat Linux on our home desktops. Then we tried several versions of Fedora, years ago. Some with excellent results and some with bad results. Using CentOS now and it's a winner. If you have some very recent HW, or a Laptop, you may need to use Fedora, but if not, CentOS is the way to go, IMHO. Test your boxes with a CentOS LiveCD before you do an install onto bare metal, to be sure it will run OK on your HW. If you need the latest and greatest, this isn't the distro you want, but if you want long life, stability and security, this is the way to go.
This basically describes my path and conclusions. Fedora is currently much better than what it was, but for a couple of releases it was so "cutting edge" that it had issues. I liked the earlier versions and I like the last two, but there was a while there where I didn't like Fedora much at all. Still prefer CentOS, though.
-
David Suhendrik -
James Matthews -
Lanny Marcus -
Les Mikesell -
Michael Semcheski -
Ron Blizzard -
Scott Silva