Hello,
I was wondering what is the smallest install that anyone has managed with 4 (4.2 to be precise) ? I'm looking at a machine running as a VPN in a DMZ, so I'm going to remove/NOT INSTALL things like gcc, X, etc. I'm planning on putting this on a 1gb USB stick and booting from it.
That reminds me, was there going to be a 1 CD server install image ?
The other thing I noticed is that if I install on x86_64 I get around 400mb in /usr/lib *and* /usr/lib64, is this entirely necessary ? Especially if I dont want the 32bit stuff ? How can one tell which packages are responsible for the libs in /usr/lib/ ? I tried a random filem from that directory;
[root@services lib]# rpm -q --whatprovides libOggFLAC.so.1 flac-1.1.0-7 [root@services lib]# rpm -qa | grep -i flac flac-1.1.0-7 [root@services lib]# rpm -qi flac-1.1.0-7 Name : flac Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.0 Vendor: CentOS Release : 7 Build Date: Tue 22 Feb 2005 10:56:45 EST Install Date: Wed 13 Apr 2005 11:50:50 EST Build Host: guru.build.karan.org Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM: flac-1.1.0-7.src.rpm Size : 707386 License: LGPL/GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Sun 27 Feb 2005 06:37:33 EST, Key ID a53d0bab443e1821 Packager : Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org URL : http://flac.sourceforge.net/ Summary : An encoder/decoder for the Free Lossless Audio Codec. Description : FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec. Grossly oversimplified, FLAC is similar to Ogg Vorbis, but lossless. The FLAC project consists of the stream format, reference encoders and decoders in library form, flac, a command-line program to encode and decode FLAC files, metaflac, a command-line metadata editor for FLAC files and input plugins for various music players (the xmms plugin is in a sub-package).
I cant see an 'arch' in there anywhere, however on the Centos DVD I found flac for both i386 and x86_64.
So why are there rpms for both archs with the x86_64 build ?
Thanks in advance.
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 22:08 +1000, Bards1888 wrote:
Hello,
I was wondering what is the smallest install that anyone has managed with 4 (4.2 to be precise) ? I'm looking at a machine running as a VPN in a DMZ, so I'm going to remove/NOT INSTALL things like gcc, X, etc. I'm planning on putting this on a 1gb USB stick and booting from it.
I have removed items after install and gotten down to about 550 mb on a CentOS-4 install.
That reminds me, was there going to be a 1 CD server install image ?
Yes, we are working on trimming it to fit on a 700mb disc and to have the same packages for x86_64 and i386.
The other thing I noticed is that if I install on x86_64 I get around 400mb in /usr/lib *and* /usr/lib64, is this entirely necessary ? Especially if I dont want the 32bit stuff ? How can one tell which packages are responsible for the libs in /usr/lib/ ? I tried a random filem from that directory;
[root@services lib]# rpm -q --whatprovides libOggFLAC.so.1 flac-1.1.0-7 [root@services lib]# rpm -qa | grep -i flac flac-1.1.0-7 [root@services lib]# rpm -qi flac-1.1.0-7 Name : flac Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.0 Vendor: CentOS Release : 7 Build Date: Tue 22 Feb 2005 10:56:45 EST Install Date: Wed 13 Apr 2005 11:50:50 EST Build Host: guru.build.karan.org Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM: flac-1.1.0-7.src.rpm Size : 707386 License: LGPL/GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Sun 27 Feb 2005 06:37:33 EST, Key ID a53d0bab443e1821 Packager : Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org URL : http://flac.sourceforge.net/ Summary : An encoder/decoder for the Free Lossless Audio Codec. Description : FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec. Grossly oversimplified, FLAC is similar to Ogg Vorbis, but lossless. The FLAC project consists of the stream format, reference encoders and decoders in library form, flac, a command-line program to encode and decode FLAC files, metaflac, a command-line metadata editor for FLAC files and input plugins for various music players (the xmms plugin is in a sub-package).
I cant see an 'arch' in there anywhere, however on the Centos DVD I found flac for both i386 and x86_64.
you need to add this line to the .rpmmacros for the user that you want to see both arches for:
%_query_all_fmt %%{name}-%%{version}-%%{release}.%%{arch}
So why are there rpms for both archs with the x86_64 build ?
because that is how the upstream provider releases it .. and we follow suit.
The real reason is so that people can have things like openoffice.org and festival and plugins for mozilla, etc ... these do not build in x86_64 mode.
You can run both i386 and x86_64 stuff on the x86_64.
once you make the above change to .rpmmacros, you can do:
rpm -qa | grep i386 (to see i386 packages)
and
rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep i386` (to remove i386 packages)
when installing via yum, if you want to ensure only the x86_64 package gets installed, do:
yum install iptraf.x86_64
and NOT
yum install iptraf
(just an example)
Thanks in advance. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Thu, 2005-10-27 at 22:08 +1000, Bards1888 wrote:
Hello,
I was wondering what is the smallest install that anyone has managed with 4 (4.2 to be precise) ? I'm looking at a machine running as a VPN in a DMZ, so I'm going to remove/NOT INSTALL things like gcc, X, etc. I'm planning on putting this on a 1gb USB stick and booting from it.
I have removed items after install and gotten down to about 550 mb on a CentOS-4 install.
That reminds me, was there going to be a 1 CD server install image ?
Yes, we are working on trimming it to fit on a 700mb disc and to have the same packages for x86_64 and i386.
The other thing I noticed is that if I install on x86_64 I get around 400mb in /usr/lib *and* /usr/lib64, is this entirely necessary ? Especially if I dont want the 32bit stuff ? How can one tell which packages are responsible for the libs in /usr/lib/ ? I tried a random filem from that directory;
[root@services lib]# rpm -q --whatprovides libOggFLAC.so.1 flac-1.1.0-7 [root@services lib]# rpm -qa | grep -i flac flac-1.1.0-7 [root@services lib]# rpm -qi flac-1.1.0-7 Name : flac Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 1.1.0 Vendor: CentOS Release : 7 Build Date: Tue 22 Feb 2005 10:56:45 EST Install Date: Wed 13 Apr 2005 11:50:50 EST Build Host: guru.build.karan.org Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM: flac-1.1.0-7.src.rpm Size : 707386 License: LGPL/GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Sun 27 Feb 2005 06:37:33 EST, Key ID a53d0bab443e1821 Packager : Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org URL : http://flac.sourceforge.net/ Summary : An encoder/decoder for the Free Lossless Audio Codec. Description : FLAC stands for Free Lossless Audio Codec. Grossly oversimplified, FLAC is similar to Ogg Vorbis, but lossless. The FLAC project consists of the stream format, reference encoders and decoders in library form, flac, a command-line program to encode and decode FLAC files, metaflac, a command-line metadata editor for FLAC files and input plugins for various music players (the xmms plugin is in a sub-package).
I cant see an 'arch' in there anywhere, however on the Centos DVD I found flac for both i386 and x86_64.
you need to add this line to the .rpmmacros for the user that you want to see both arches for:
%_query_all_fmt %%{name}-%%{version}-%%{release}.%%{arch}
So why are there rpms for both archs with the x86_64 build ?
because that is how the upstream provider releases it .. and we follow suit.
The real reason is so that people can have things like openoffice.org and festival and plugins for mozilla, etc ... these do not build in x86_64 mode.
You can run both i386 and x86_64 stuff on the x86_64.
once you make the above change to .rpmmacros, you can do:
rpm -qa | grep i386 (to see i386 packages)
and
rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep i386` (to remove i386 packages)
when installing via yum, if you want to ensure only the x86_64 package gets installed, do:
yum install iptraf.x86_64
and NOT
yum install iptraf
(just an example)
Thanks in advance. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
As usual Johnny, you are a gentleman. Thanks for your help.
550mb sounds great. Was that minus X, development (gcc et al) ?
Is there any way at install time to ensure that no i386 packages are installed ?
Thanks again.
Bards.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Bards1888 wrote:
I was wondering what is the smallest install that anyone has managed with 4 (4.2 to be precise) ? I'm looking at a machine running as a VPN
http://www.owlriver.com/tips/tiny-centos/ documents how to use kickstart, and yield a very usable 376 Meg install of centos-4.2, fully updated
-- Russ Herrold
On 10/27/05, R P Herrold herrold@owlriver.com wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Bards1888 wrote:
I was wondering what is the smallest install that anyone has managed with 4 (4.2 to be precise) ? I'm looking at a machine running as a VPN
http://www.owlriver.com/tips/tiny-centos/ documents how to use kickstart, and yield a very usable 376 Meg install of centos-4.2, fully updated
Very interesting!
Hopefully you can answer a quick question. So I can avoid multiple installs to test it out...
It looks, to me that is, that joe is installed as an editor. I prefer vim. Do you know if I can replace joe with vim and get the desired results?
-- Leonard Isham, CISSP Ostendo non ostento.
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Leonard Isham wrote:
It looks, to me that is, that joe is installed as an editor. I prefer vim. Do you know if I can replace joe with vim and get the desired results?
yes, absolutely -- I have learned and forgotten so many editors, that I decided a decade ago to just keep using W*
/me dons Nomex garb ;)
-- Russ herrold
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