Japanese input - the final frontier. This is the last obstacle before I can work completely within Centos and be free of Windows. But it's still not working.
To cut to the chase, in my quest to get Japanese working, I came across the following: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-i18n-list/2004-November/msg00030.html ... where someone says: "You need to have httx (htt_xbe) running to use iiimf in KDE."
Okay, so I go looking on the net for httx, but can't quite figure out what it is or how to download it.
So my question is what is it, where do I get it, and will it help me get Japanese input?
Now, for anyone who needs a reference, what follows is how I came to find out about httx.
I was following the instructions on this page: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/i18n/iiimf-faq.html
And here are the results of some of the commands they suggest to check if iiimf is running in KDE:
[root@localhost dave]# service iiim status htt (pid 3193) is running...
[root@localhost dave]# rpm -qa |grep iiimf iiimf-csconv-12.1-13.EL iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-43 iiimf-libs-devel-12.1-13.EL iiimf-libs-12.1-13.EL iiimf-gtk-12.1-13.EL iiimf-client-lib-11.4-43 iiimf-x-12.1-13.EL iiimf-gnome-im-switcher-12.1-13.EL iiimf-le-unit-12.1-13.EL iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-43 iiimf-server-12.1-13.EL iiimf-le-canna-12.1-13.EL iiimf-docs-12.1-13.EL iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-43
[root@localhost dave]# ps auxwww | grep httx root 4433 0.0 0.2 5272 664 pts/4 S+ 18:38 0:00 grep httx
[root@localhost dave]# LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 XMODIFIERS=@im=htt kedit QInputContext: no input method context available QInputContext: no input method context available
When I went to Google to look up this error, that's when I eventually came across httx, but that's where I was stonewalled.
I hope someone can help me get this last piece of the puzzle in place.
Dave
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:52 +0900, Dave Gutteridge wrote:
Japanese input - the final frontier. This is the last obstacle before I can work completely within Centos and be free of Windows. But it's still not working.
To cut to the chase, in my quest to get Japanese working, I came across the following: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-i18n-list/2004-November/msg00030.html ... where someone says: "You need to have httx (htt_xbe) running to use iiimf in KDE."
Okay, so I go looking on the net for httx, but can't quite figure out what it is or how to download it.
So my question is what is it, where do I get it, and will it help me get Japanese input?
Now, for anyone who needs a reference, what follows is how I came to find out about httx.
I was following the instructions on this page: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/i18n/iiimf-faq.html
And here are the results of some of the commands they suggest to check if iiimf is running in KDE:
[root@localhost dave]# service iiim status htt (pid 3193) is running...
[root@localhost dave]# rpm -qa |grep iiimf iiimf-csconv-12.1-13.EL iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-43 iiimf-libs-devel-12.1-13.EL iiimf-libs-12.1-13.EL iiimf-gtk-12.1-13.EL iiimf-client-lib-11.4-43 iiimf-x-12.1-13.EL iiimf-gnome-im-switcher-12.1-13.EL iiimf-le-unit-12.1-13.EL iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-43 iiimf-server-12.1-13.EL iiimf-le-canna-12.1-13.EL iiimf-docs-12.1-13.EL iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-43
[root@localhost dave]# ps auxwww | grep httx root 4433 0.0 0.2 5272 664 pts/4 S+ 18:38 0:00 grep httx
[root@localhost dave]# LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 XMODIFIERS=@im=htt kedit QInputContext: no input method context available QInputContext: no input method context available
When I went to Google to look up this error, that's when I eventually came across httx, but that's where I was stonewalled.
I hope someone can help me get this last piece of the puzzle in place.
Do this to get httx on your machine:
yum install iiimf-docs iiimf-x
Here is the help it installs:
/usr/share/doc/IIIM/index.html
and
/usr/share/doc/IIIM/cmds/httx.html
I don't know any more about it than that ... I have never used iiimf.
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 05:20 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sun, 2005-08-07 at 18:52 +0900, Dave Gutteridge wrote:
Japanese input - the final frontier. This is the last obstacle before I can work completely within Centos and be free of Windows. But it's still not working.
To cut to the chase, in my quest to get Japanese working, I came across the following: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-i18n-list/2004-November/msg00030.html ... where someone says: "You need to have httx (htt_xbe) running to use iiimf in KDE."
Okay, so I go looking on the net for httx, but can't quite figure out what it is or how to download it.
So my question is what is it, where do I get it, and will it help me get Japanese input?
Now, for anyone who needs a reference, what follows is how I came to find out about httx.
I was following the instructions on this page: http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/i18n/iiimf-faq.html
And here are the results of some of the commands they suggest to check if iiimf is running in KDE:
[root@localhost dave]# service iiim status htt (pid 3193) is running...
[root@localhost dave]# rpm -qa |grep iiimf iiimf-csconv-12.1-13.EL iiimf-protocol-lib-11.4-43 iiimf-libs-devel-12.1-13.EL iiimf-libs-12.1-13.EL iiimf-gtk-12.1-13.EL iiimf-client-lib-11.4-43 iiimf-x-12.1-13.EL iiimf-gnome-im-switcher-12.1-13.EL iiimf-le-unit-12.1-13.EL iiimf-client-lib-devel-11.4-43 iiimf-server-12.1-13.EL iiimf-le-canna-12.1-13.EL iiimf-docs-12.1-13.EL iiimf-protocol-lib-devel-11.4-43
[root@localhost dave]# ps auxwww | grep httx root 4433 0.0 0.2 5272 664 pts/4 S+ 18:38 0:00 grep httx
[root@localhost dave]# LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 XMODIFIERS=@im=htt kedit QInputContext: no input method context available QInputContext: no input method context available
When I went to Google to look up this error, that's when I eventually came across httx, but that's where I was stonewalled.
I hope someone can help me get this last piece of the puzzle in place.
Do this to get httx on your machine:
yum install iiimf-docs iiimf-x
sorry ... you already have it all installed (I now see from your post) :)
Here is the help it installs:
/usr/share/doc/IIIM/index.html
and
/usr/share/doc/IIIM/cmds/httx.html
I don't know any more about it than that ... I have never used iiimf.
This might help you ... if you read through all the followups:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-i18n-list/2004-August/msg00010.html
Thanks for following up. By reading on the web site you pointed me to, I've learned that I do not have these environment variables set: XMODIFIERS=@im=htt GTK_IM_MODULE=iiim
And that I don't have the htt_xbe service running.
I read on the web that variables can just be arbitrarily set (though I'm still not totally clear on exactly how), but I'm wary of just setting these, as my suspicion is that if I had my set up properly isntalled, they would have been set already. So can I just set them (and if so, how?), or is there a better way to ensure that the variables are actually referencing something?
Dave
Dave Gutteridge wrote:
Japanese input - the final frontier. This is the last obstacle before I can work completely within Centos and be free of Windows. But it's still not working.
<SNIP> And here are the results of some of the commands they suggest to check if iiimf is running in KDE: <SNIP> [root@localhost dave]# LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 XMODIFIERS=@im=htt kedit QInputContext: no input method context available QInputContext: no input method context available
When I went to Google to look up this error, that's when I eventually came across httx, but that's where I was stonewalled.
I hope someone can help me get this last piece of the puzzle in place.
I don't know if this will help, but I've got the iiim service running on my CentOS 4 laptop at home. I type the necessary shell variables followed by the command I want and it works quite well for Gnome/GTK applications.
I've successfully typed kana into GVIM and gedit without issue. CTRL-SPACE is used to turn on the non-Latin language set (a little Kanji character displays underneath the window to indicate the change in mode). CTRL-SHIFT-SPACE is used to switch between Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and other language sets. All of this appears to work just fine.
I don't know how to get it to use Kanji though. All I appear to get is hiragana. I don't know very much Japanese and really can't read it without a kana chart and a dictionary. My sister has had several years of Japanese in school and was nice enough to verify that, yes, it was displaying kana. Unfortunately, when I typed in "neko" it displayed the hiragana and not the Kanji we were expecting.
Also, unfotunately for you, what doesn't work is KDE/QT apps. I'm not sure yet as to why. I run KDE for my desktop, but my of my apps are Gnome/GTK (go figure!).
I guess my reason for posting is to indicate to you that, yes, this does work for someone else, and yes, they are having the same problem with KDE apps.
--Shawn
On 8/8/05, Shawn M. Jones smj@littleprojects.org wrote:
I don't know how to get it to use Kanji though. All I appear to get is hiragana. I don't know very much Japanese and really can't read it without a kana chart and a dictionary. My sister has had several years of Japanese in school and was nice enough to verify that, yes, it was displaying kana. Unfortunately, when I typed in "neko" it displayed the hiragana and not the Kanji we were expecting.
Also, unfotunately for you, what doesn't work is KDE/QT apps. I'm not sure yet as to why. I run KDE for my desktop, but my of my apps are Gnome/GTK (go figure!).
--Shawn
To convert from hiragana to katakana, you have to press the down cursor. If you have canna deamon running, you can further convert it to kanja by hitting the enter key, followed by the down cursor. E.g.,
neko -> ねこ -> ネコ -> 眠子
I have not been able to get iiimf working in KDE, & this is the key reason why I am sticking with GNOME. But I have heard that iiimf should work under KDE.
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