I just installed Centos 5 for my notebook (HP compaq nc4010) on a separate drive (than this one that has Centos 4.5).
When I first booted after all the setup, X did not start. hmm.
Rebooted, and X came up fine. I did a bunch of customizing and upgraded the kernel
Rebooted, X did not start.
Rebooted X started fine. I checked some things out then tried the Suspend feature. Not supprisingly, the system would not come back properly out of suspend. So I pulled the battery and rebooted. Now no X.
I looked at the Xorg.0.log and did see one error (but did not write it down, grrr).
I have tried to mount that drive via a USB connector, but automount is not handling it, and I don't know how to start working out mounting it manually.
SO....
What happened? Oh, not nVidea (or whatever those threads on a video problem is). My video card is the: "ATI Technologies Inc PCI Bridge [IGP 340M]"
Is something still wrong becuase of the attempt to try Suspend? Where do I look and what do I change?
Possiblely I messed up in customizing? But I did run system-config-display and set things as they are here in Centos 4.5, and rebooted. No change....
please help!
It seems to be a timing problem. And I do not know what else.
Perhaps I need to do more tresting, but each test takes around 10 min. I have to boot, see it fail to go into X, try something reboot....
I have noticed that if I run pm-suspend and power back up, watch the system hang, pull the AC and the battery, and power up, I get into X. Strange?
But in the last few rounds, while services were loading, I did not do an <alt-D> to see details and X did not crash. Seems to be a timing issue... ???
Now my display is set for the one I have in my NOC, not the one here in my office. I tried to change it and although I am told the update to xorg.conf was made, no changes were made. I guess next time I will log in as root instead of chancing su...
ARGH!!!!!
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I just installed Centos 5 for my notebook (HP compaq nc4010) on a separate drive (than this one that has Centos 4.5).
When I first booted after all the setup, X did not start. hmm.
Rebooted, and X came up fine. I did a bunch of customizing and upgraded the kernel
Rebooted, X did not start.
Rebooted X started fine. I checked some things out then tried the Suspend feature. Not supprisingly, the system would not come back properly out of suspend. So I pulled the battery and rebooted. Now no X.
I looked at the Xorg.0.log and did see one error (but did not write it down, grrr).
I have tried to mount that drive via a USB connector, but automount is not handling it, and I don't know how to start working out mounting it manually.
SO....
What happened? Oh, not nVidea (or whatever those threads on a video problem is). My video card is the: "ATI Technologies Inc PCI Bridge [IGP 340M]"
Is something still wrong becuase of the attempt to try Suspend? Where do I look and what do I change?
Possiblely I messed up in customizing? But I did run system-config-display and set things as they are here in Centos 4.5, and rebooted. No change....
please help!
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On 6/13/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
It seems to be a timing problem. And I do not know what else.
This sounds similar to something I encountered after first installing CentOS5.0 on my pavilion laptop. See thread "CentOS 5: GDM starts, but console doesn't switch VTs" (which isn't really a thread, as no one replied to me either). It rarely happens now that I've installed all the updates, but does still happen occasionally.
Have you tried pressing Alt-F7 after you get the text console prompt?
I'm also a tad puzzled by why you keep resorting to pulling out the battery. Holding the power button down for 6-10 seconds doesn't get you powered off so that on the next power-on it does a full restart? I've never had to remove a laptop battery except when it needed replacing because it wouldn't hold a charge.
In your earlier post you said:
I have tried to mount that drive via a USB connector, but automount is not handling it, and I don't know how to start working out mounting it manually.
Does that mean that some part of your CentOS install is on an external USB drive? In my not-very-extensive experience with running CentOS on laptops, suspend and especially hibernate does not work unless all the essential components (/etc, /boot, and so on) are on the internal hard drive. Perhaps that's just a RedHat shortcoming, or perhaps someone else can explain workarounds. (May need a new thread to get anyone's attention.)
Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 6/13/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
It seems to be a timing problem. And I do not know what else.
This sounds similar to something I encountered after first installing CentOS5.0 on my pavilion laptop. See thread "CentOS 5: GDM starts, but console doesn't switch VTs" (which isn't really a thread, as no one replied to me either). It rarely happens now that I've installed all the updates, but does still happen occasionally.
I will look for it. I am all current on updates other than for BIND and OpenOffice (that I want to grab 2.1 from their site, not the 2.0 update from the repo).
Have you tried pressing Alt-F7 after you get the text console prompt?
Didn't do anything. When I run top, I don't see X. I am pretty sure it crashed and burned.
I'm also a tad puzzled by why you keep resorting to pulling out the battery. Holding the power button down for 6-10 seconds doesn't get you powered off so that on the next power-on it does a full restart? I've never had to remove a laptop battery except when it needed replacing because it wouldn't hold a charge.
Not on my HP Compaq NC4010. No matter what I do with the settings, If I get wedged, the power button is just a pretty decoration.
In your earlier post you said:
I have tried to mount that drive via a USB connector, but automount is not handling it, and I don't know how to start working out mounting it manually.
Does that mean that some part of your CentOS install is on an external USB drive? In my not-very-extensive experience with running CentOS on laptops, suspend and especially hibernate does not work unless all the essential components (/etc, /boot, and so on) are on the internal hard drive. Perhaps that's just a RedHat shortcoming, or perhaps someone else can explain workarounds. (May need a new thread to get anyone's attention.)
No. I did the Centos 5 on a new drive. This way I could make sure everything worked before messing with my production environment. I was careful to name all the LVM units something different from my 4.5 drive, but when I put the drive in the USB interface thing, other that the drive spinning up, I could not see anything to indicate a USB drive available. And I have done the kernel change to support multiple drives in a USB device.
Well sort of. Looks like I have to hold down <cntrl-Alt-F7> for a handful or so seconds and there is X. Guess the other times I tried this I was too impatient.
Some sort of timing problem that I end up in the wrong display....
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 6/13/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
It seems to be a timing problem. And I do not know what else.
This sounds similar to something I encountered after first installing CentOS5.0 on my pavilion laptop. See thread "CentOS 5: GDM starts, but console doesn't switch VTs" (which isn't really a thread, as no one replied to me either). It rarely happens now that I've installed all the updates, but does still happen occasionally.
I will look for it. I am all current on updates other than for BIND and OpenOffice (that I want to grab 2.1 from their site, not the 2.0 update from the repo).
Have you tried pressing Alt-F7 after you get the text console prompt?
Didn't do anything. When I run top, I don't see X. I am pretty sure it crashed and burned.
I'm also a tad puzzled by why you keep resorting to pulling out the battery. Holding the power button down for 6-10 seconds doesn't get you powered off so that on the next power-on it does a full restart? I've never had to remove a laptop battery except when it needed replacing because it wouldn't hold a charge.
Not on my HP Compaq NC4010. No matter what I do with the settings, If I get wedged, the power button is just a pretty decoration.
In your earlier post you said:
I have tried to mount that drive via a USB connector, but
automount is
not handling it, and I don't know how to start working out
mounting it
manually.
Does that mean that some part of your CentOS install is on an external USB drive? In my not-very-extensive experience with running CentOS on laptops, suspend and especially hibernate does not work unless all the essential components (/etc, /boot, and so on) are on the internal hard drive. Perhaps that's just a RedHat shortcoming, or perhaps someone else can explain workarounds. (May need a new thread to get anyone's attention.)
No. I did the Centos 5 on a new drive. This way I could make sure everything worked before messing with my production environment. I was careful to name all the LVM units something different from my 4.5 drive, but when I put the drive in the USB interface thing, other that the drive spinning up, I could not see anything to indicate a USB drive available. And I have done the kernel change to support multiple drives in a USB device.
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On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Well sort of. Looks like I have to hold down <cntrl-Alt-F7> for a handful or so seconds and there is X. Guess the other times I tried this I was too impatient.
Incidentally, the cntrl key shouldn't be necessary to switch among text-mode virtual consoles, only to switch out of X to get to a text console. Just Alt-F7 should do it.
Some sort of timing problem that I end up in the wrong display....
Is networking up and working? I've been experiencing another problem where X takes a very long time to start up if the network is not available.
Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Well sort of. Looks like I have to hold down <cntrl-Alt-F7> for a handful or so seconds and there is X. Guess the other times I tried this I was too impatient.
Incidentally, the cntrl key shouldn't be necessary to switch among text-mode virtual consoles, only to switch out of X to get to a text console. Just Alt-F7 should do it.
ah..
Some sort of timing problem that I end up in the wrong display....
Is networking up and working? I've been experiencing another problem where X takes a very long time to start up if the network is not available.
In this case, yes. via my ethernet card. I have not yet tried to set up madwifi...
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 07:35 -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote:
On 6/14/07, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
Well sort of. Looks like I have to hold down <cntrl-Alt-F7> for a handful or so seconds and there is X. Guess the other times I tried this I was too impatient.
Incidentally, the cntrl key shouldn't be necessary to switch among text-mode virtual consoles, only to switch out of X to get to a text console. Just Alt-F7 should do it.
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Further, if in a text console already, <Alt><LeftArrow | Right Arrow> cycles through the text consoles.
-- Bill
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