Hi all, I hope there is someone in Japan. If we install Centos in Japanese, and then I ssh to it from an English client. Will the SSH prompt be in Japanese?
How to make the SSH prompt in Japanese?
Thank you.
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:10:40AM +0800, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi all, I hope there is someone in Japan. If we install Centos in Japanese, and then I ssh to it from an English client. Will the SSH prompt be in Japanese?
My guess--it's a bit late to test it tonight---is that as long as your terminal can handle Japanese you should be alright.
That is, it's probably easiest to, while running X, use a terminal emulated, e.g., uxterm or urxvt (rxvt-unicode), and check the LC_CTYPE. Generally, something like LC_CTYPE=en_US-UTF-8 will be able to read Japanes, but it will probably also depend upon the LC_CTYPE settings on the remote machine.
As English is my first language, I've never quite had to do it that way, but at times, have had to remotely read emails in mutt using Japanese.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Scott Robbins scottro@nyc.rr.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:10:40AM +0800, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi all, I hope there is someone in Japan. If we install Centos in Japanese, and then I ssh to it from an English client. Will the SSH prompt be in Japanese?
My guess--it's a bit late to test it tonight---is that as long as your terminal can handle Japanese you should be alright.
That is, it's probably easiest to, while running X, use a terminal emulated, e.g., uxterm or urxvt (rxvt-unicode), and check the LC_CTYPE. Generally, something like LC_CTYPE=en_US-UTF-8 will be able to read Japanes, but it will probably also depend upon the LC_CTYPE settings on the remote machine.
As English is my first language, I've never quite had to do it that way, but at times, have had to remotely read emails in mutt using Japanese.
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't it? I'm located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese hostnames actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in Japanese. What is it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard setup you have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard to a US style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the kana from the different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra for example to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can type the ら character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you actually have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you needed to write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your particular system.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Scott Robbins scottro@nyc.rr.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:10:40AM +0800, Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Hi all, I hope there is someone in Japan. If we install Centos in Japanese, and then I ssh to it from an English client. Will the SSH prompt be in Japanese?
My guess--it's a bit late to test it tonight---is that as long as your terminal can handle Japanese you should be alright.
That is, it's probably easiest to, while running X, use a terminal emulated, e.g., uxterm or urxvt (rxvt-unicode), and check the LC_CTYPE. Generally, something like LC_CTYPE=en_US-UTF-8 will be able to read Japanes, but it will probably also depend upon the LC_CTYPE settings on the remote machine.
As English is my first language, I've never quite had to do it that way, but at times, have had to remotely read emails in mutt using Japanese.
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't it? I'm located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese hostnames actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in Japanese. What is it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard setup you have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard to a US style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the kana from the different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra for example to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can type the ら character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you actually have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you needed to write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your particular system.
and sorry for my bad grammar, too much time in Japan ;-)
your prompt, you are not a prompt.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't it? I'm located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese hostnames actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in Japanese. What is it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard setup you have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard to a US style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the kana from the different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra for example to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can type the ら character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you actually have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you needed to write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your particular system.
Hi Ross, thanks for your time. What I want to know is, during the initial ssh login. Will it display the dialogue fully in Japanese? e.g. fajar@8.8.8.8's password: (will it be in Japanese?)
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't it? I'm located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese hostnames actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in Japanese. What is it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard setup you have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard to a US style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the kana from
the
different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra for
example
to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can type
the ら
character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you actually have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you needed to write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your particular system.
Hi Ross, thanks for your time. What I want to know is, during the initial ssh login. Will it display the dialogue fully in Japanese? e.g. fajar@8.8.8.8's password: (will it be in Japanese?)
As far as I'm aware, you would be seeing virtually everything in English
as the directory structures are in English. Usually people's home directories are setup in English, I don't think I've ever come across a user login that does use Japanese actually (not sure if you can - otherwise your SSH connection you'd have to match you user name - eg. Ross would be my katakana name, ロス＠8.8.8.8 - don't even know it's possible). I've worked at one Japanese company as the only foreigner, and all others companies have been international ones - but everyone uses Roman characters for their logins and not kana or kanji.
Same with passwords.
Usually, on systems I've seen in Japan most of the time files and folders are creating using Roman characters for naming (most of the time). Within a document, of course it could be written 100% in Japanese. Some folders and files can be in Japanese, so it can be hard to navigate through some directories if you don't have any IME tools for Japanese input. Lots of tab autocomplete and copy and pasting at times - but that's usually within a home directory for a user for example.
I see. Thanks Ross. That makes sense.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy ^^ On Aug 6, 2012 8:12 PM, "Ross Cavanagh" ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com
wrote:
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't it? I'm located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese hostnames actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in Japanese. What
is
it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard setup you have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard to a US style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the kana from
the
different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra for
example
to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can type
the ら
character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you
actually
have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you needed
to
write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your particular
system.
Hi Ross, thanks for your time. What I want to know is, during the initial ssh login. Will it display the dialogue fully in Japanese? e.g. fajar@8.8.8.8's password: (will it be in Japanese?)
As far as I'm aware, you would be seeing virtually everything in English
as the directory structures are in English. Usually people's home directories are setup in English, I don't think I've ever come across a user login that does use Japanese actually (not sure if you can - otherwise your SSH connection you'd have to match you user name - eg. Ross would be my katakana name, ロス＠8.8.8.8 - don't even know it's possible). I've worked at one Japanese company as the only foreigner, and all others companies have been international ones - but everyone uses Roman characters for their logins and not kana or kanji.
Same with passwords.
Usually, on systems I've seen in Japan most of the time files and folders are creating using Roman characters for naming (most of the time). Within a document, of course it could be written 100% in Japanese. Some folders and files can be in Japanese, so it can be hard to navigate through some directories if you don't have any IME tools for Japanese input. Lots of tab autocomplete and copy and pasting at times - but that's usually within a home directory for a user for example. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
I see. Thanks Ross. That makes sense.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy ^^ On Aug 6, 2012 8:12 PM, "Ross Cavanagh" ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com
wrote:
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't it? I'm located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese hostnames actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in Japanese.
What
is
it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard setup
you
have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard to a
US
style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the kana
from
the
different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra for
example
to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can type
the ら
character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you
actually
have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you
needed
to
write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your particular
system.
Hi Ross, thanks for your time. What I want to know is, during the initial ssh login. Will it display the dialogue fully in Japanese? e.g. fajar@8.8.8.8's password: (will it be in Japanese?)
As far as I'm aware, you would be seeing virtually everything in
English
as the directory structures are in English. Usually people's home directories are setup in English, I don't think I've ever come across a user login that does use Japanese actually (not sure if you can -
otherwise
your SSH connection you'd have to match you user name - eg. Ross would be my katakana name, ロス＠8.8.8.8 - don't even know it's possible). I've
worked
at one Japanese company as the only foreigner, and all others companies have been international ones - but everyone uses Roman characters for
their
logins and not kana or kanji.
Same with passwords.
Usually, on systems I've seen in Japan most of the time files and folders are creating using Roman characters for naming (most of the time).
Within a
document, of course it could be written 100% in Japanese. Some folders
and
files can be in Japanese, so it can be hard to navigate through some directories if you don't have any IME tools for Japanese input. Lots of
tab
autocomplete and copy and pasting at times - but that's usually within a home directory for a user for example.
I just quickly started up a CentOS VM to check something...
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ロス useradd: invalid user name 'ロス'
So, looks like it needs to be in Roman characters.
But it appears even I have some issues via my terminal too:
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ross [root@CENT01 ~]# cd /home/ross/ [root@CENT01 ross]# touch ロス [root@CENT01 ross]# ls ??????
So, my Japanese input isn't being displayed. But I did get a warning when I SSH'd in about that:
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
Hope that helps.
Definitely Ross. I'll tell my friend. Thank you.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy ^^ On Aug 6, 2012 8:23 PM, "Ross Cavanagh" ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
I see. Thanks Ross. That makes sense.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy ^^ On Aug 6, 2012 8:12 PM, "Ross Cavanagh" ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com
wrote:
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't it?
I'm
located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese
hostnames
actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in Japanese.
What
is
it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard setup
you
have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard to a
US
style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the kana
from
the
different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra for
example
to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can
type
the ら
character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you
actually
have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you
needed
to
write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your particular
system.
Hi Ross, thanks for your time. What I want to know is, during the initial ssh login. Will it display the dialogue fully in Japanese? e.g. fajar@8.8.8.8's password: (will it be in Japanese?)
As far as I'm aware, you would be seeing virtually everything in
English
as the directory structures are in English. Usually people's home directories are setup in English, I don't think I've ever come across a user login that does use Japanese actually (not sure if you can -
otherwise
your SSH connection you'd have to match you user name - eg. Ross would
be
my katakana name, ロス＠8.8.8.8 - don't even know it's possible). I've
worked
at one Japanese company as the only foreigner, and all others companies have been international ones - but everyone uses Roman characters for
their
logins and not kana or kanji.
Same with passwords.
Usually, on systems I've seen in Japan most of the time files and
folders
are creating using Roman characters for naming (most of the time).
Within a
document, of course it could be written 100% in Japanese. Some folders
and
files can be in Japanese, so it can be hard to navigate through some directories if you don't have any IME tools for Japanese input. Lots of
tab
autocomplete and copy and pasting at times - but that's usually within
a
home directory for a user for example.
I just quickly started up a CentOS VM to check something...
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ロス useradd: invalid user name 'ロス'
So, looks like it needs to be in Roman characters.
But it appears even I have some issues via my terminal too:
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ross [root@CENT01 ~]# cd /home/ross/ [root@CENT01 ross]# touch ロス [root@CENT01 ross]# ls ??????
So, my Japanese input isn't being displayed. But I did get a warning when I SSH'd in about that:
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
Hope that helps. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Fajar Priyanto wrote:
Definitely Ross. I'll tell my friend. Thank you.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy ^^ On Aug 6, 2012 8:23 PM, "Ross Cavanagh" ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
I see. Thanks Ross. That makes sense.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy ^^ On Aug 6, 2012 8:12 PM, "Ross Cavanagh" ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajarpri@arinet.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com
wrote:
You're prompt will reference whatever the hostname is doesn't
it? I'm
located in Tokyo, I haven't setup any servers with Japanese
hostnames
actually, but on occasion some filenames are written in
Japanese.
What
is
it you wanted to see exactly? It also depends on the keyboard
setup
you
have set to the default. Most people in Japan set the keyboard
to a
US
style - where they enter romaji, and don't usually enter the
kana
from
the
different keyboard layout. So, you type the roman characters ra
for
example
to make ら, but there is a Japanese keyboard layout where you can
type
the ら
character directly - but I never really see that used.
So, as far as I know, you'll be using whatever input methods you
actually
have on your local system where you're ssh'ing from. So, if you
needed
to
write Japanese input you'd need some local IME on your
particular
system.
Hi Ross, thanks for your time. What I want to know is, during the initial ssh login. Will it display the dialogue fully in Japanese? e.g.
fajar@8.8.8.8's
password: (will it be in Japanese?)
As far as I'm aware, you would be seeing virtually everything in
English
as the directory structures are in English. Usually people's home directories are setup in English, I don't think I've ever come
across a
user login that does use Japanese actually (not sure if you can -
otherwise
your SSH connection you'd have to match you user name - eg. Ross
would be
my katakana name, ロス＠8.8.8.8 - don't even know it's possible). I've
worked
at one Japanese company as the only foreigner, and all others
companies
have been international ones - but everyone uses Roman characters
for
their
logins and not kana or kanji.
Same with passwords.
Usually, on systems I've seen in Japan most of the time files and
folders
are creating using Roman characters for naming (most of the time).
Within a
document, of course it could be written 100% in Japanese. Some
folders
and
files can be in Japanese, so it can be hard to navigate through some directories if you don't have any IME tools for Japanese input. Lots
of
tab
autocomplete and copy and pasting at times - but that's usually
within a
home directory for a user for example.
I just quickly started up a CentOS VM to check something...
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ロス useradd: invalid user name 'ロス'
So, looks like it needs to be in Roman characters.
But it appears even I have some issues via my terminal too:
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ross [root@CENT01 ~]# cd /home/ross/ [root@CENT01 ross]# touch ロス [root@CENT01 ross]# ls ??????
So, my Japanese input isn't being displayed. But I did get a warning when I SSH'd in about that:
-bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (UTF-8)
Hope that helps.
Fajar, please don't top post.
And the Japanese not being displayed - the setlocale is your clue: you need to install Japanese language support.
mark
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
I just quickly started up a CentOS VM to check something...
But it appears even I have some issues via my terminal too:
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ross [root@CENT01 ~]# cd /home/ross/ [root@CENT01 ross]# touch ロス [root@CENT01 ross]# ls ??????
I have a .ja version of CentOS-6 in a VM. I do all my testing work by ssh'ing to it but have not encountered issues with Japanese input/display.
[yagi2@c63-64ja ~]$ mkdir 日本語 [yagi2@c63-64ja ~]$ cd 日本語 [yagi2@c63-64ja 日本語]$ touch ロス [yagi2@c63-64ja 日本語]$ ll total 0 -rw-r--r--. 1 yagi2 yagi2 0 Aug 6 06:39 ロス
The machine I connect from does have Japanese input set up (as mentioned by others).
Akemi A Japanese in California :-)
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Akemi Yagi amyagi@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
I just quickly started up a CentOS VM to check something...
But it appears even I have some issues via my terminal too:
[root@CENT01 ~]# useradd -m ross [root@CENT01 ~]# cd /home/ross/ [root@CENT01 ross]# touch ロス [root@CENT01 ross]# ls ??????
I have a .ja version of CentOS-6 in a VM. I do all my testing work by ssh'ing to it but have not encountered issues with Japanese input/display.
[yagi2@c63-64ja ~]$ mkdir 日本語 [yagi2@c63-64ja ~]$ cd 日本語 [yagi2@c63-64ja 日本語]$ touch ロス [yagi2@c63-64ja 日本語]$ ll total 0 -rw-r--r--. 1 yagi2 yagi2 0 Aug 6 06:39 ロス
The machine I connect from does have Japanese input set up (as mentioned by others).
Akemi A Japanese in California :-)
Can you do a useradd command in kana or kanji? Mine was rejected, which I
think was the main concern that the username / password combination would be in Japanese. I don't think I've encountered a non romaji home directory - but the folders and files can be created in Japanese no problem.
The issue I had is a local one that I can fix with the display actually.
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Ross Cavanagh ross.cav@gmail.com wrote:
Can you do a useradd command in kana or kanji? Mine was rejected, which I
think was the main concern that the username / password combination would be in Japanese. I don't think I've encountered a non romaji home directory
- but the folders and files can be created in Japanese no problem.
Right, username cannot be in Japanese :
[root@c63-64ja ~]# useradd 三軒茶屋 useradd: '三軒茶屋' はユーザ名に使えません
Akemi
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