-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Juan Pablo Espino Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Does CentOS has problems with Norton Ghost 2003
images?
Hello all
We have two very important workstations dedicated to tasks of development and investigation. At the moment we have installed a dual boot platform with CentOS 4.0 and Windows XP Proffessional SP2. In order to do backups of these machines we need to create an image with Norton Ghost 2003.
We have worked with Ghost during several years with different platforms (Red Hat, White Box Linux, Windows) without problems but now we are facing problems with our CentOS. When the creation of the image reaches approximately 50% in BOTH machines the Norton Ghost aborts with an error. Using the "force cloning" option of Ghost we managed to complete the creation of the image, nevertheless when recovering it we got this error: GRUB GRUB (the machine never booted)
Chapter E, Boot Configuration section of the Ghost2003 manual at ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/products/ghost/manuals/g host2003_guide.pdf states --
"Boot configuration Norton Ghost uses the file /etc/lilo.conf to determine the boot configuration. If this file does not match the boot configuration, Norton Ghost may be unable to patch LILO during cloning. The keyword, default, is not supported in Lilo.conf, so the first target specified should be the default target.
If a different boot loader, such as grub, is used, or the preceding conditions are not met, Norton Ghost clones the system but the new disk probably will not boot. The system should be started from a floppy disk or CD, and the boot loader should be reinstalled by running /sbin/lilo or an equivalent."
That last paragraph seems applicable. Did White Box use lilo or grub?
Then we tried to boot CentOS from a floppy and linux rescue and it didn't work. Two days ago we made and we recovered images to those same discs with White Box and WinXP without problems.
Given our experience with Norton Ghost, we considered seriously that the problem is CentOS. We did many tests to have arrived at this consideration. Here are the details:
I believe the opposite is more likely. Ghost needs to support the OS on the disk, not the other way around. That's why you can't use Ghost to clone HFS or ReiserFS partitions. The table below supports that conclusion as well --
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/8f7dc138830563c888256c220 0662ecd/b343f521f647fd1b88256caf00755887?OpenDocument&prod=Norton%20Ghos t&ver=2003%20for%20Windows%202000/NT/Me/98/XP&src=sg&pcode=ghost&svy=&cs m=no
My guess is that White Box was identical to or close enough to one of the supported versions to work correctly. RHAS4 and therefore CentOS4 are much newer than Ghost 2003 so it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that it's not supported.
-- Marc
Hi!
Thanks for your quick response! We used GRUB with WhiteBox. Also, White Box used the 2.4 kernel and CentOS uses the 2.6 kernel... any comments? Thanks a lot!
Juan P. Espino.
On 4/27/05, Marc Powell marc@ena.com wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Juan Pablo Espino Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 3:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Does CentOS has problems with Norton Ghost 2003
images?
Hello all
We have two very important workstations dedicated to tasks of development and investigation. At the moment we have installed a dual boot platform with CentOS 4.0 and Windows XP Proffessional SP2. In order to do backups of these machines we need to create an image with Norton Ghost 2003.
We have worked with Ghost during several years with different platforms (Red Hat, White Box Linux, Windows) without problems but now we are facing problems with our CentOS. When the creation of the image reaches approximately 50% in BOTH machines the Norton Ghost aborts with an error. Using the "force cloning" option of Ghost we managed to complete the creation of the image, nevertheless when recovering it we got this error: GRUB GRUB (the machine never booted)
Chapter E, Boot Configuration section of the Ghost2003 manual at ftp://ftp.symantec.com/public/english_us_canada/products/ghost/manuals/g host2003_guide.pdf states --
"Boot configuration Norton Ghost uses the file /etc/lilo.conf to determine the boot configuration. If this file does not match the boot configuration, Norton Ghost may be unable to patch LILO during cloning. The keyword, default, is not supported in Lilo.conf, so the first target specified should be the default target.
If a different boot loader, such as grub, is used, or the preceding conditions are not met, Norton Ghost clones the system but the new disk probably will not boot. The system should be started from a floppy disk or CD, and the boot loader should be reinstalled by running /sbin/lilo or an equivalent."
That last paragraph seems applicable. Did White Box use lilo or grub?
Then we tried to boot CentOS from a floppy and linux rescue and it didn't work. Two days ago we made and we recovered images to those same discs with White Box and WinXP without problems.
Given our experience with Norton Ghost, we considered seriously that the problem is CentOS. We did many tests to have arrived at this consideration. Here are the details:
I believe the opposite is more likely. Ghost needs to support the OS on the disk, not the other way around. That's why you can't use Ghost to clone HFS or ReiserFS partitions. The table below supports that conclusion as well --
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/8f7dc138830563c888256c220 0662ecd/b343f521f647fd1b88256caf00755887?OpenDocument&prod=Norton%20Ghos t&ver=2003%20for%20Windows%202000/NT/Me/98/XP&src=sg&pcode=ghost&svy=&cs m=no
My guess is that White Box was identical to or close enough to one of the supported versions to work correctly. RHAS4 and therefore CentOS4 are much newer than Ghost 2003 so it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that it's not supported.
-- Marc _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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