On 10/11/05, Bill Baird Bill.Baird@phoenixmi.com wrote:

We need more details than that!

You sure about that? Seems like it's either going to be a keyboard error, or a user error. Given the content of the message, I'm going to bet on the latter. simply use yum to update to user version 2.0, and the problem should resolve itself. :-P

/blindly blathering on.... -- Jim Perrin System Administrator - UIT Ft Gordon & US Army Signal Center

William L. Maltby wrote:

allows full unhindered implementation of the new UnByFaFoFuSpeA (Unhindered By Facts Forge Full Speed Ahead) system.

I think that you mean:

UnThPrFoSpAh aka Unencumbered by the thought process but will still forge full speed ahead.

On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 13:54 -0700, Syv Ritch wrote:

William L. Maltby wrote:

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allows full unhindered implementation of the new UnByFaFoFuSpeA (Unhindered By Facts Forge Full Speed Ahead) system.

I think that you mean:

UnThPrFoSpAh aka Unencumbered by the thought process but will still forge full speed ahead.

Besides, that one is unpronounceable.

Tom wrote:

[delete]

William L. Maltby wrote:

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On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 13:54 -0700, Syv Ritch wrote:

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William L. Maltby wrote:

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allows full unhindered implementation of the new UnByFaFoFuSpeA (Unhindered By Facts Forge Full Speed Ahead) system.

I think that you mean:

UnThPrFoSpAh aka Unencumbered by the thought process but will still forge full speed ahead.

Besides, that one is unpronounceable.

funny as it might be, think we have had enough of this thread. lets end it here.

List, Actually, it was me who started this thread. Pure accident. My apologies for having caused any inconvenience. I thought some of the responses were quite amusing, though, so hopefully the thread added some value. But in any case, sorry for sending a blank message.

Dave

William L. Maltby wrote:

I wouldn't worry about it. Everyone needs to lighten up once in a while. The guy who said drop it may be an "official", but he obviously is taking this stuff (and himself?) way to seriously. It's not like the bandwidth used by this rinky-dink break from the day's labors is going to make a major impact on either the human or spectral resources, in comparison to all the non-CentOS stuff I've seen since I came aboard.

So to he who says "No to short humorous threads", I say get the "Pretty Good Joke Book" by Garrison Keillor (Sp?), read a little and leave us to enjoy a little bit now and then! :-))

this is not a playlist, if that's what you want go elsewhere. there is already way too much OT and crap coming from members of this list, grow up FFS.

do as the moderator politely asked before and end this thread now.

Bryan J. Smith wrote:

Karanbir Singh kbsingh@centos.org wrote:

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funny as it might be, think we have had enough of this thread. lets end it here.

My sincerest apologies as I was wholly responsible for this thread, and several the other off-topic threads in the past 2 weeks.

Bryan,

One of these days you will wake up and realise that the whole world is really not out to get to. Till then, if you have a point to prove, feel free to do so offlist, as you had said you would - For now, I am unsubscribing your email address's here.

Your one post here just added to the thread, that I did ask to be left alone.

For everyone on this thead :

I am also unsubscribing the other moron who argued this list is unmoderated so do as you please. Goto Usenet if its usenet you want. And if its humour you want, there are other places to get it.

We dont have strict Topic guidelines, but I dont consider it unreasonable to maintain some Topic sanity. Everyone has had their laugh, Dave has said that the post was in error, now lets drop this.

- K

The Bandito of Bandwidth wrote:

Bryan,

Can you kindly stick to one email address instead of actively trying to circumvent filters?

No need to respond.

Thanks,

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 08:01 -0500, Bryan J. Smith wrote:

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 10:34 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

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Bryan, One of these days you will wake up and realise that the whole world is really not out to get to.

It was a *JOKE*!

I've made 2 posts in a month -- one that finally address a serious tangent (and many people thanked me off-list) -- and this one, just to make a little fun of the situation. I *KNOW* several people got a laugh out of the second one, and the first one was _sorely_needed_ when a "switched from RHEL back to Windows Server" article and resulting thread was looking like a lot of "Linux infighting" and "Red Hat bashing." I like to think I made a very careful technical analysis and post on that one.

*NOW* considering I help 4-5 people *OFF-LIST* PER *DAY* -- outside the arrogant non-sense of your "off-topic" and, in many cases, "very mean spirited 'help'" -- I do *NOT* think the "whole world is out to get me." In fact, I just think about a dozen people hear just like to focus on _others_ instead of themselves (yourself included ;-).

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Till then, if you have a point to prove, feel free to do so offlist, as you had said you would - For now, I am unsubscribing your email address's here.

I already unsubscribed my "Yahoo" address right after I sent the message. That keeps me from posting except when I want to. Just like I am doing with this message.

Now you had *BETTER* put my "IEEE" address _back_ on-list with no posting privileges. That way I can help people off-list. There have already been about 5 posts in the last 2-3 weeks that *NO*ONE* answered on-list, but I did off-list. *THINK* of the people *I*DO* help.

And not of you're "I can't stand this Bryan Smith buy, even though he's only posted 2 times in the last month, and he only made 1 joke."

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Your one post here just added to the thread, that I did ask to be left alone.

I'm not asking you to explain your motives, they are already considered "unobjective" by many. I do find that I've made no less than a half- dozen _CentOS_-specific posts in the past you've labelled off-topic. Furthermore, you've taken the arrogant stance that I'm a "Fedora-only" guy and not an "enterprise administrator."

Sounds like someone had an "ego problem" to me. But if I give my background, I'm "flaunting my resume." So what's it going to be? Your continued assumption that I only do Fedora and don't know how to deal with "enterprise" networks? Or will you let your ego finally go?

No offense, but your continued arrogance and self-appointed "I know what's right for the group" is growing tiresome. It would be one thing if you were objective. But you've smashed _good_ technical threads that _do_ have CentOS clearly in focus. You've belittled technical details you don't understand (e.g., Firefox.i386 on Red Hat.x86-64 distros), and the intelligence of others.

That's why I help people *OFF-LIST*. It's not worth it.

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For everyone on this thead : I am also unsubscribing the other moron who argued this list is unmoderated so do as you please. Goto Usenet if its usenet you want. And if its humour you want, there are other places to get it.

Take away my IEEE posting privileges -- I don't mind that at all. And that's why I only subscribe my Yahoo or Earthlink account to my 1 post every 2-3 weeks. I did it on 9/29 on the Red Hat thread. I did it again yesterday just to make a joke. Com'mon -- 2 posts in a month!

So you have *NO*RIGHT* to keep me from being a "read-only" list member. I have far too many people *OFF-LIST*!

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We dont have strict Topic guidelines, but I dont consider it unreasonable to maintain some Topic sanity. Everyone has had their laugh, Dave has said that the post was in error, now lets drop this.

But apparently my _single_post_ was "too much to take" for you?

You're a personally-vindictive, *UNPROFESSIONAL* individual, and I'm personally and professionally tired of it.

---- not wishing to make this a referendum on Bryan, Karanbir or anyone else, it's obvious that one of the primary effects of attempts to moderate, by anyone, accelerates/exacerbates the problem - having exactly the opposite of the intended effect.

In essence, we have a situation where everyone is both right and wrong.

The founders of the American Constitution recognized that strength came from the expression of ideas and that those in power should not be able to control or silence their opponents/detractors as that weakened the country. I pretty much feel that the same happens here as well - that CentOS is weakened by heavy handed attempts to silence those whose opinions we don't like. We all have filters and delete buttons. List owners of course have the option to knock people out but are almost always wisest not to use that power except when absolutely necessary and I'm quite certain that it hadn't reached that state.

Craig

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 10:34 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:

Bryan, One of these days you will wake up and realise that the whole world is really not out to get to.

It was a *JOKE*!

I've made 2 posts in a month -- one that finally address a serious tangent (and many people thanked me off-list) -- and this one, just to make a little fun of the situation. I *KNOW* several people got a laugh out of the second one, and the first one was _sorely_needed_ when a "switched from RHEL back to Windows Server" article and resulting thread was looking like a lot of "Linux infighting" and "Red Hat bashing." I like to think I made a very careful technical analysis and post on that one.

*NOW* considering I help 4-5 people *OFF-LIST* PER *DAY* -- outside the arrogant non-sense of your "off-topic" and, in many cases, "very mean spirited 'help'" -- I do *NOT* think the "whole world is out to get me." In fact, I just think about a dozen people hear just like to focus on _others_ instead of themselves (yourself included ;-).

Till then, if you have a point to prove, feel free to do so offlist, as you had said you would - For now, I am unsubscribing your email address's here.

I already unsubscribed my "Yahoo" address right after I sent the message. That keeps me from posting except when I want to. Just like I am doing with this message.

Now you had *BETTER* put my "IEEE" address _back_ on-list with no posting privileges. That way I can help people off-list. There have already been about 5 posts in the last 2-3 weeks that *NO*ONE* answered on-list, but I did off-list. *THINK* of the people *I*DO* help.

And not of you're "I can't stand this Bryan Smith buy, even though he's only posted 2 times in the last month, and he only made 1 joke."

Your one post here just added to the thread, that I did ask to be left alone.

I'm not asking you to explain your motives, they are already considered "unobjective" by many. I do find that I've made no less than a half- dozen _CentOS_-specific posts in the past you've labelled off-topic. Furthermore, you've taken the arrogant stance that I'm a "Fedora-only" guy and not an "enterprise administrator."

Sounds like someone had an "ego problem" to me. But if I give my background, I'm "flaunting my resume." So what's it going to be? Your continued assumption that I only do Fedora and don't know how to deal with "enterprise" networks? Or will you let your ego finally go?

No offense, but your continued arrogance and self-appointed "I know what's right for the group" is growing tiresome. It would be one thing if you were objective. But you've smashed _good_ technical threads that _do_ have CentOS clearly in focus. You've belittled technical details you don't understand (e.g., Firefox.i386 on Red Hat.x86-64 distros), and the intelligence of others.

That's why I help people *OFF-LIST*. It's not worth it.

For everyone on this thead : I am also unsubscribing the other moron who argued this list is unmoderated so do as you please. Goto Usenet if its usenet you want. And if its humour you want, there are other places to get it.

Take away my IEEE posting privileges -- I don't mind that at all. And that's why I only subscribe my Yahoo or Earthlink account to my 1 post every 2-3 weeks. I did it on 9/29 on the Red Hat thread. I did it again yesterday just to make a joke. Com'mon -- 2 posts in a month!

So you have *NO*RIGHT* to keep me from being a "read-only" list member. I have far too many people *OFF-LIST*!

We dont have strict Topic guidelines, but I dont consider it unreasonable to maintain some Topic sanity. Everyone has had their laugh, Dave has said that the post was in error, now lets drop this.

But apparently my _single_post_ was "too much to take" for you?

You're a personally-vindictive, *UNPROFESSIONAL* individual, and I'm personally and professionally tired of it.

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On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:54:06PM -0700, Syv Ritch wrote:

William L. Maltby wrote:

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allows full unhindered implementation of the new UnByFaFoFuSpeA (Unhindered By Facts Forge Full Speed Ahead) system.

I think that you mean:

UnThPrFoSpAh aka Unencumbered by the thought process but will still forge full speed ahead.

The thought process is highly overrated, anyway.

- -- Rodrigo Barbosa rodrigob@suespammers.org "Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur" "Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)