How do you resize the screen to fit everything in it? I cant tell what the resolution is set at but would like to change it.
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:32 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
How do you resize the screen to fit everything in it? I cant tell what the resolution is set at but would like to change it.
Do I detect a brand new user here? If so, your Q's are just beginning. Be careful not to alienate the ones who may be able to help. Besides the books you mentioned earlier, be sure and google, etc. Also, check out the FAQ for CentOS for some tips that help all of us.
Now, having unburdened myself, when you installed, did you set up multiple resolutions in X? If so, <ctl-alt> and +, <ctl-alt> and minus cycles throught the resolutions you have.
If you didn't set that up, the X configure can be run again to do it, or you can manually edit the configuration files (not recommended).
If you are neededing to get more text into a browser, often a <ctl> and + or <ctl> and - will change fonts. In xterms, you need to use the View menu to do it.
HTH
Yea im very new to Linux. The Ctl-alt command didn't work nor did the CTL by itself. What is X or the X configure? As for the documentation for CentOS I went to Red hats website through a link someone gave me but there is so many documents I don't know which ones I am suppose to download. Before I waste my time downloading them all I would like someone to give me a better heads up on what to download first. Everyone says to Google the information but I cant seem to find anything for a beginner.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:22 PM To: CentOS General List Subject: Re: [CentOS] Screen sizes
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:32 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
How do you resize the screen to fit everything in it? I cant tell what the resolution is set at but would like to change it.
Do I detect a brand new user here? If so, your Q's are just beginning. Be careful not to alienate the ones who may be able to help. Besides the books you mentioned earlier, be sure and google, etc. Also, check out the FAQ for CentOS for some tips that help all of us.
Now, having unburdened myself, when you installed, did you set up multiple resolutions in X? If so, <ctl-alt> and +, <ctl-alt> and minus cycles throught the resolutions you have.
If you didn't set that up, the X configure can be run again to do it, or you can manually edit the configuration files (not recommended).
If you are neededing to get more text into a browser, often a <ctl> and + or <ctl> and - will change fonts. In xterms, you need to use the View menu to do it.
HTH
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:28 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
Yea im very new to Linux. The Ctl-alt command didn't work nor did the CTL by itself. What is X or the X configure? As for the documentation for CentOS I went to Red hats website through a link someone gave me but there is so many documents I don't know which ones I am suppose to download. Before I waste my time downloading them all I would like someone to give me a better heads up on what to download first. Everyone says to Google the information but I cant seem to find anything for a beginner.
Huh? The very first line in a google advanced search using "linux beginner user" returned this site.
www.reallylinux.com - Website for Linux Beginners
And I assure you there are lots more.
First, office procedure: considered bad form to top post.
Ok. Also, your own machine may have a lot to help you. Start browsing /usr/share doc.
Do "man bash". # No quotes needed
Do ls on /bin and /usr/bin and pick some interesting looking files (often intro is pretty good place to start) and do
"man <whatever-you-found-interesting>" # no quotes
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Unlike WinBlows, *IX systems demand some dedication and work to be "user friendly". Like the school yard tough, when you have demonstrated your mettle, he often is quite friendly.
HTH
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:44 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:28 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
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Do ls on /bin and /usr/bin and pick some interesting looking files (often intro is pretty good place to start) and do
"man <whatever-you-found-interesting>" # no quotes
I just realized my advanced age caused a substantial omission there. Clarification is in order.
Commands and man pages are viewd in one of (usually) 8 categories in *IX systems. Sections 1, 2, 3, ... Sections 1, 5, 7, and 8 are often useful to non-programmers (IIRC). Anyway, a command like
man 1 intro
will offer some small beginning clues to the labrynth facing you. Ditto for section 5,... Section 2,3,4 (sometimes) may also be interesting, but these are really more for programmers.
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:44 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:28 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
Yea im very new to Linux. The Ctl-alt command didn't work nor did the CTL by itself. What is X or the X configure? As for the documentation for CentOS I went to Red hats website through a link someone gave me but there is so many documents I don't know which ones I am suppose to download. Before I waste my time downloading them all I would like someone to give me a better heads up on what to download first. Everyone says to Google the information but I cant seem to find anything for a beginner.
Huh? The very first line in a google advanced search using "linux beginner user" returned this site.
www.reallylinux.com - Website for Linux Beginners
And I assure you there are lots more.
First, office procedure: considered bad form to top post.
Ok. Also, your own machine may have a lot to help you. Start browsing /usr/share doc.
Do "man bash". # No quotes needed
Do ls on /bin and /usr/bin and pick some interesting looking files (often intro is pretty good place to start) and do
"man <whatever-you-found-interesting>" # no quotes
<snip original posting>
Unlike WinBlows, *IX systems demand some dedication and work to be "user friendly". Like the school yard tough, when you have demonstrated your mettle, he often is quite friendly.
Not quite true ... if you want to do things bare metal then it is, but most things have nice GUIs in the "System Settings" menu if you are just going to be a desktop user, ie not running a server.
Paul
On Apr 6, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Chris Peikert wrote:
Yea im very new to Linux. The Ctl-alt command didn't work nor did the CTL by itself. What is X or the X configure? As for the documentation for CentOS I went to Red hats website through a link someone gave me but there is so many documents I don't know which ones I am suppose to download. Before I waste my time downloading them all I would like someone to give me a better heads up on what to download first. Everyone says to Google the information but I cant seem to find anything for a beginner.
ok, here goes:
http://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-sbs-en-4/
this is the Red Hat Enterprise Linux Step By Step Guide; it's a reasonably good start for a newbie. i'd recommend reading all of it rather than trying to pick out bits and pieces.
if you'd like to print it out for offline reading, a PDF version is available here:
http://www.centos.org/docs/4/pdf/rhel-sbs-en.pdf
once you're done with those, consider perusing the System Administration Guide and/or the Reference Guide, or read those books i recommended earlier. more general documentation is available at the Linux documentation Project:
but at a bare minimum, read the Step By Step Guide. then come back with questions. :)
-steve
--- If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:28 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
Yea im very new to Linux. The Ctl-alt command didn't work nor did the CTL by itself. What is X or the X configure?
system-config-display
I suggest getting out of X (<ctl-alt-backspace>) *after* logging into a virtual terminal (<ctl>-<alt>-<F1>, or <F2> or <F3>,...) as root. Run the command from there. But you may have to read some of the help to figure out how to get multiple resolutions.
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HTH
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:22 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:32 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
How do you resize the screen to fit everything in it? I cant tell what the resolution is set at but would like to change it.
Do I detect a brand new user here? If so, your Q's are just beginning. Be careful not to alienate the ones who may be able to help. Besides the books you mentioned earlier, be sure and google, etc. Also, check out the FAQ for CentOS for some tips that help all of us.
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If you are neededing to get more text into a browser, often a <ctl> and
- or <ctl> and - will change fonts. In xterms, you need to use the View
menu to do it.
A much simpler way for a new user to do it would be to go into the "Applications" panel menu, then go into "System Settings" and select the "Display" application.
This is assuming you are using the system in GUI mode, since you are asking a question about changing display resolution probably a good bet.
Nothing like making things more complex for a new user than needed.
Paul
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 20:53 -0500, Paul wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:22 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:32 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
How do you resize the screen to fit everything in it? I cant tell what the resolution is set at but would like to change it.
Do I detect a brand new user here? If so, your Q's are just beginning. Be careful not to alienate the ones who may be able to help. Besides the books you mentioned earlier, be sure and google, etc. Also, check out the FAQ for CentOS for some tips that help all of us.
<SNIP> > If you are neededing to get more text into a browser, often a <ctl> and > + or <ctl> and - will change fonts. In xterms, you need to use the View > menu to do it.
A much simpler way for a new user to do it would be to go into the "Applications" panel menu, then go into "System Settings" and select the "Display" application.
Not to be argumentative, but isn't it simpler for a new user to either change screen resolution by a <ctl>-<alt> and plus/minus *if* he had multiple resolutions set up already than to navigate unknown menus? That was at the start of this thread. If he doesn't have it set up, then while in a browser or xterm, again a 2 key combo for temporary grow or shrink seems simpler than navigating strange menus. MHO.
But I'm an old CLI guy and have always gone for the shortest distance...
This is assuming you are using the system in GUI mode, since you are asking a question about changing display resolution probably a good bet.
Nothing like making things more complex for a new user than needed.
Confusion was not intentional. If you had come on the scene sooner, I could have kept quiet and let you show the "right" way. I was looking for the shortest path to his immediate need. He wanted to get more on the screen.
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On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 22:11 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 20:53 -0500, Paul wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:22 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:32 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
How do you resize the screen to fit everything in it? I cant tell what the resolution is set at but would like to change it.
Do I detect a brand new user here? If so, your Q's are just beginning. Be careful not to alienate the ones who may be able to help. Besides the books you mentioned earlier, be sure and google, etc. Also, check out the FAQ for CentOS for some tips that help all of us.
<SNIP> > If you are neededing to get more text into a browser, often a <ctl> and > + or <ctl> and - will change fonts. In xterms, you need to use the View > menu to do it.
A much simpler way for a new user to do it would be to go into the "Applications" panel menu, then go into "System Settings" and select the "Display" application.
Not to be argumentative, but isn't it simpler for a new user to either change screen resolution by a <ctl>-<alt> and plus/minus *if* he had multiple resolutions set up already than to navigate unknown menus? That was at the start of this thread. If he doesn't have it set up, then while in a browser or xterm, again a 2 key combo for temporary grow or shrink seems simpler than navigating strange menus. MHO.
I'm sorry I did jump a bit on you ... seemed like he was getting answers that were not very fresh from Windows user friendly from several different people on the list for his questions.
But I'm an old CLI guy and have always gone for the shortest distance...
When I'm working servers CLI is usually the shortest way from point A to point B and for more complex things the only way.
This is assuming you are using the system in GUI mode, since you are asking a question about changing display resolution probably a good bet.
Nothing like making things more complex for a new user than needed.
Confusion was not intentional. If you had come on the scene sooner, I could have kept quiet and let you show the "right" way. I was looking for the shortest path to his immediate need. He wanted to get more on the screen.
Well in Linux there is no "right" way generally though for some users the GUI tools provided are more immediately useful and you did provide the GUI command later in the thread I saw.
Regards, Paul Berger
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 21:42 -0500, Paul wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 22:11 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 20:53 -0500, Paul wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:22 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:32 -0500, Chris Peikert wrote:
How do you resize the screen to fit everything in it? I cant tell what
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But I'm an old CLI guy and have always gone for the shortest distance...
When I'm working servers CLI is usually the shortest way from point A to point B and for more complex things the only way.
This is assuming you are using the system in GUI mode, since you are asking a question about changing display resolution probably a good bet.
Nothing like making things more complex for a new user than needed.
Confusion was not intentional. If you had come on the scene sooner, I could have kept quiet and let you show the "right" way. I was looking for the shortest path to his immediate need. He wanted to get more on the screen.
Well in Linux there is no "right" way generally though for some users the GUI tools provided are more immediately useful and you did provide the GUI command later in the thread I saw.
The GUI stuff is the hardest for me because I grew up when there was nonesuch. Still learning it as I can. Unfortunately, it leaves me open to criticism if I try to be helpful with what I already know and end up sharing less current methodologies.
But never having been a real admin, I'm used to be half-right a lot. :-)
Regards, Paul Berger
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