On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:05:52 -0400, Phil Gardner wrote:

many of the recent android phones are using MTP as opposed to USB mass storage

MTPfs is problematic on Centos, so I don't think that will work.

Even so, this RAZR V3re was built sometime around 2004 or 2005, so, I doubt it's using anything new'ish... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Razr#V3re

Never having used bluetooth to *transfer* files (I use bluetooth all the time to speak on a speakerphone or earpiece), I found the Motorola RAZR V3re manual here: https://www.motorola.com/moto_care/manuals/V3_VE_Series/V3_06_UG.pdf

I then futzed around with the Centos bluetooth, which "seems" to be working fine but which is not exactly working. I say that because I was able to attempt a connection from Centos to the RAZR V3re flip phone, where Centos generated a 6-digit password which the phone subsequently verified, but then, nothing happened. I'm not sure *how* to transfer via bluetooth! http://i44.tinypic.com/swu23q.jpg

I suppose the bluetooth transfer should work, but I'm surprised that the Centos Bluetooth setup didn't clue me in as to what to do next.

I wonder if my Centos bluetooth is working (I know the Motorola V3re RAZR bluetooth works to the speakerphone in the car).

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:58:32 +0000, Woehrle Hartmut SBB CFF FFS (Extern) wrote:

What does dmesg say when you plug that device in? Is there an output when using lsusb and does it correspond to your devices?

$ lsusb REPORTED: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS Triplet GSM Phone (AT)

$ dmesg REPORTED: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=22b8, idProduct=4902 usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 usb 3-1: Product: Motorola Phone (V3re) usb 3-1: Manufacturer: Motorola Inc. usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice usb 3-1: ep 0x89 - rounding interval to 64 microframes, ep desc says 80 microframes cdc_acm 3-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_acm cdc_acm: v0.26:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters

I'm not sure what this tells me though, other than it's a V3re (I thought it was just a V3) and that Centos does recognize it for what it is.

Yet, how do I access the pictures on it?

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:21:57 +0000, Woehrle Hartmut SBB CFF FFS (Extern) wrote:

it realizes the telephone part (modem and ISDN), but nothing about a storage device that you will need.

When googling I found a user saying that "moto4lin" can be used to download photos (http://linuxgazette.net/134/misc/lg/talkback_133_tag_html.html)

Thanks. At this point, it looks like my main options are: a) Bluetooth b) Moto4lin c) kmobiletools

I'm going to try to figure out how to get Centos bluetooth working.

All I know at the moment is I've set it up using: System -> Preferences -> Bluetooth http://i39.tinypic.com/iz6hkw.png

And, I put the Motorola RAZR V3re in discoverable for 60 seconds mode and then, on Centos, I've pressed the "setup" button and it came up with a PIN which I typed on the Motorola cellphone: http://i40.tinypic.com/2niya04.png

But, that only happened the first time (and I can't repeat that process, even after rebooting the Centos laptop).

I *think* I pressed all the right buttons; but I don't know what to do next. Googling for "how to transfer files via bluetooth on Centos", I find this file matters:

$ cat /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth REPORTS: status: enabled commands: enable, disable

So, bluetooth seems to be enabled. I think I'm just doing something wrong.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:36:48 -0700, John Doe wrote:

I did not follow the whole thread but, the doc seems to talk about a "mass storage" mode... https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88616 It does not work without special drivers?

I'm still failing to access the pictures on the Motorola RAZR V3re. The problem with that reference: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/88616 is that its for Android phones.

So, it was my mistake to list it, since absolutely nothing in that URL turned out to work, or, even be applicable.

At the moment, sadly, there is no way to read camera files off a Motorola RAZR V3 on Centos. Folks tried on the Centos forum (i.e., centos.org) and failed. Here's a quote from that forum posted today:

[quote] I tried moto4lin from http://sourceforge.net/projects/moto4lin/files/moto4lin/moto4lin-0.3/ However, that didn't build, saying the Centos 6 qt stuff was too old. If it were me, I think I'd just make a VM of something more modern, and use that. You could install Lubuntu in about 15 minutes, and it would probably work out of the box.[/quote]

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:36:59 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:

Can that phone connect to a wireless access point and run a ftp or sftp session or something similar to that?

That might be a good idea ... if it can do that.

Grepping the user manual for the word "wifi" or "wi-fi" or "802.11": https://www.motorola.com/moto_care/manuals/V3_VE_Series/V3_06_UG.pdf Unfortunately, none of those are mentioned.

So, my conclusion is that there is no Wi-Fi capability whatsoever. :(

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:57:24 +0000, David G. Miller wrote:

As soon as I run the USB storage app the phone's SD cards show up on the system the phone is attached to as UBS storage devices. Have you looked for a USB storage app?

From the previous thread on accessing camera files on Android,

apparently it's apples and oranges between the internal memory of the phone and an external card.

They're apparently handled quite differently, so, nothing in the Android world applies to the RAZR V3re.

Even in the Android world, on Centos/RHEL6 there is (apparently) extremely little in common with how you access camera data on the phone between the storage cards and the memory.

In fact, since accessing the camera data in memory is so extremely difficult on Centos, one of the suggested workarounds, on Android, is to transfer that data from the internal memory to the storage card. Then it's *easy* to transfer!

Back on topic, unfortunately, the Motorola RAZR V3re has neither a storage card nor Android - so nothing in the above applies.