I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7 VPS server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server but have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this new server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a new install I need to decide which one to use.
Looking at the Android apps for these cloud solutions, they both seem to have a fair number of critical reviews...
Does anyone have a preference and, if so, why?
The Nextcloud has more features and all are for free. The ownCloud has some for enterprise features which are paid. Soo i think the choice is clear.
niedz., 23 lut 2020 o 02:35 H agents@meddatainc.com napisał(a):
I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7 VPS server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server but have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this new server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a new install I need to decide which one to use.
Looking at the Android apps for these cloud solutions, they both seem to have a fair number of critical reviews...
Does anyone have a preference and, if so, why?
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OwnCloud came first, but IIRC, when the business managers took it partially commercial, the original developer split and forked it to make NextCloud as he didn't like the OwnCloud policies [1]
[1] https://karlitschek.de/2016/04/big-changes-i-am-leaving-owncloud-inc-today/
On February 22, 2020 9:12:17 PM EST, John Pierce jhn.pierce@gmail.com wrote:
OwnCloud came first, but IIRC, when the business managers took it partially commercial, the original developer split and forked it to make NextCloud as he didn't like the OwnCloud policies [1]
[1] https://karlitschek.de/2016/04/big-changes-i-am-leaving-owncloud-inc-today/
I know, are you therefore preferring NextCloud?
On Feb 22, 2020, at 9:14 PM, H agents@meddatainc.com wrote:
On February 22, 2020 9:12:17 PM EST, John Pierce jhn.pierce@gmail.com wrote:
OwnCloud came first, but IIRC, when the business managers took it partially commercial, the original developer split and forked it to make NextCloud as he didn't like the OwnCloud policies [1]
[1] https://karlitschek.de/2016/04/big-changes-i-am-leaving-owncloud-inc-today/
I know, are you therefore preferring NextCloud?
I run owncloud for quite some time. I am about to switch to nextcloud, decision was made some time ago, this is just lower priority. In addition to what other people mentioned, nextcloud had latest free client applications for mobile devices. Owncloud was $0.99 for each mobile device. You can find really old version free for android. Not that the cost stops me: I was really happy to pay when I started using owncloud, so grateful to them I was for their existence. However, I run my android de-googled, so applications come not from the google app store. Hence, it will be hassle with paid applications.
Valeri
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 02/22/2020 10:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Feb 22, 2020, at 9:14 PM, H agents@meddatainc.com wrote:
On February 22, 2020 9:12:17 PM EST, John Pierce jhn.pierce@gmail.com wrote:
OwnCloud came first, but IIRC, when the business managers took it partially commercial, the original developer split and forked it to make NextCloud as he didn't like the OwnCloud policies [1]
[1] https://karlitschek.de/2016/04/big-changes-i-am-leaving-owncloud-inc-today/
I know, are you therefore preferring NextCloud?
I run owncloud for quite some time. I am about to switch to nextcloud, decision was made some time ago, this is just lower priority. In addition to what other people mentioned, nextcloud had latest free client applications for mobile devices. Owncloud was $0.99 for each mobile device. You can find really old version free for android. Not that the cost stops me: I was really happy to pay when I started using owncloud, so grateful to them I was for their existence. However, I run my android de-googled, so applications come not from the google app store. Hence, it will be hassle with paid applications.
Valeri
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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OK, I will install NextCloud. Thank you all for your comments.
On February 22, 2020 9:02:05 PM EST, "bryn1u85 ." m.bryn1u@gmail.com wrote:
The Nextcloud has more features and all are for free. The ownCloud has some for enterprise features which are paid. Soo i think the choice is clear.
niedz., 23 lut 2020 o 02:35 H agents@meddatainc.com napisał(a):
I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7
VPS
server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server
but
have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this
new
server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a
new
install I need to decide which one to use.
Looking at the Android apps for these cloud solutions, they both seem
to
have a fair number of critical reviews...
Does anyone have a preference and, if so, why?
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Ok. It seems, however, EPEL has version 10 of NextCloud whereas it is up to version 17?
On Feb 22, 2020, at 9:16 PM, H agents@meddatainc.com wrote:
On February 22, 2020 9:02:05 PM EST, "bryn1u85 ." m.bryn1u@gmail.com wrote:
The Nextcloud has more features and all are for free. The ownCloud has some for enterprise features which are paid. Soo i think the choice is clear.
niedz., 23 lut 2020 o 02:35 H agents@meddatainc.com napisał(a):
I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7
VPS
server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server
but
have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this
new
server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a
new
install I need to decide which one to use.
Looking at the Android apps for these cloud solutions, they both seem
to
have a fair number of critical reviews...
Does anyone have a preference and, if so, why?
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Ok. It seems, however, EPEL has version 10 of NextCloud whereas it is up to version 17?
I believe, latest should be version 18. FreeBSD has package version 18.0.1
Valeri
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++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On 02/22/2020 10:26 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Feb 22, 2020, at 9:16 PM, H agents@meddatainc.com wrote:
On February 22, 2020 9:02:05 PM EST, "bryn1u85 ." m.bryn1u@gmail.com wrote:
The Nextcloud has more features and all are for free. The ownCloud has some for enterprise features which are paid. Soo i think the choice is clear.
niedz., 23 lut 2020 o 02:35 H agents@meddatainc.com napisał(a):
I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7
VPS
server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server
but
have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this
new
server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a
new
install I need to decide which one to use.
Looking at the Android apps for these cloud solutions, they both seem
to
have a fair number of critical reviews...
Does anyone have a preference and, if so, why?
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Ok. It seems, however, EPEL has version 10 of NextCloud whereas it is up to version 17?
I believe, latest should be version 18. FreeBSD has package version 18.0.1
Valeri
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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I am surprised EPEL is so far behind, I would have thought there would be enough demand from RH and CentOS users for this type of product it would be kept up-to-date...
Hi,
I've built my owncloud 17 rpm for centos-7, but I didn't published it because it cannot upgrade the v10. To Upgrade I did: Build by hand all intermediate versions and installed them in /usr (ugly I know), overwriting the v10 rpm files and did all upgrade processes until v16. Then. I did rpm -Uvh the v17 and ran the upgrade process. This was the only quick and dirty way to upgrade to recent version while keeping things in rpm database.
Nextcloud has a ticket to enable the ability to upgrade from multiple major versions. Once this is available I'm sure that we'll see an up to date version of nextcloud in EPEL.
For now, you need to hack.
My work was based on this: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/scren/nextcloud/builds/
My source RPM: http://olivier.lahaye1.free.fr/SRPMS/nextcloud-17.0.2-1.el7.src.rpm You can build it using rpmbuild --rebuild nextcloud-17.0.2-1.el7.src.rpm Keep in mind that you have to upgrade manually in /usr all previous major version up to v16 and do all the database update before upgrading to the generated rpms. (use the highest release for each major release)
OF course, if it's a new install, it should work out of the box.
I didn't build the v18 as it was v18.0.0.0.0 by the time I worked on it and I wanted a somehow stable version.
My 2 cents.
Olivier.
Le 23/02/2020 04:17, « CentOS au nom de H » <centos-bounces@centos.org au nom de agents@meddatainc.com> a écrit :
On February 22, 2020 9:02:05 PM EST, "bryn1u85 ." m.bryn1u@gmail.com wrote: >The Nextcloud has more features and all are for free. The ownCloud has >some >for enterprise features which are paid. Soo i think the choice is >clear. > >niedz., 23 lut 2020 o 02:35 H agents@meddatainc.com napisał(a): > >> I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7 >VPS >> server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server >but >> have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this >new >> server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a >new >> install I need to decide which one to use. >> >> Looking at the Android apps for these cloud solutions, they both seem >to >> have a fair number of critical reviews... >> >> Does anyone have a preference and, if so, why? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS@centos.org >https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Ok. It seems, however, EPEL has version 10 of NextCloud whereas it is up to version 17? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 02/24/2020 04:16 AM, LAHAYE Olivier wrote:
Hi,
I've built my owncloud 17 rpm for centos-7, but I didn't published it because it cannot upgrade the v10. To Upgrade I did: Build by hand all intermediate versions and installed them in /usr (ugly I know), overwriting the v10 rpm files and did all upgrade processes until v16. Then. I did rpm -Uvh the v17 and ran the upgrade process. This was the only quick and dirty way to upgrade to recent version while keeping things in rpm database.
Nextcloud has a ticket to enable the ability to upgrade from multiple major versions. Once this is available I'm sure that we'll see an up to date version of nextcloud in EPEL.
For now, you need to hack.
My work was based on this: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/scren/nextcloud/builds/
My source RPM: http://olivier.lahaye1.free.fr/SRPMS/nextcloud-17.0.2-1.el7.src.rpm You can build it using rpmbuild --rebuild nextcloud-17.0.2-1.el7.src.rpm Keep in mind that you have to upgrade manually in /usr all previous major version up to v16 and do all the database update before upgrading to the generated rpms. (use the highest release for each major release)
OF course, if it's a new install, it should work out of the box.
I didn't build the v18 as it was v18.0.0.0.0 by the time I worked on it and I wanted a somehow stable version.
My 2 cents.
Olivier.
Le 23/02/2020 04:17, « CentOS au nom de H » <centos-bounces@centos.org au nom de agents@meddatainc.com> a écrit :
On February 22, 2020 9:02:05 PM EST, "bryn1u85 ." <m.bryn1u@gmail.com> wrote: >The Nextcloud has more features and all are for free. The ownCloud has >some >for enterprise features which are paid. Soo i think the choice is >clear. > >niedz., 23 lut 2020 o 02:35 H <agents@meddatainc.com> napisał(a): > >> I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7 >VPS >> server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server >but >> have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this >new >> server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a >new >> install I need to decide which one to use. >> >> Looking at the Android apps for these cloud solutions, they both seem >to >> have a fair number of critical reviews... >> >> Does anyone have a preference and, if so, why? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS@centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS@centos.org >https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Ok. It seems, however, EPEL has version 10 of NextCloud whereas it is up to version 17? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Thank you, will save these instructions.
Am 23.02.2020 um 03:02 schrieb bryn1u85 . m.bryn1u@gmail.com:
The Nextcloud has more features and all are for free. The ownCloud has some for enterprise features which are paid. Soo i think the choice is clear.
Really depends on those features - and their price.
Le 23/02/2020 à 02:34, H a écrit :
I am planning to install either ownCloud or NextCloud on a CentOS 7 VPS server I control. I have previously used ownCloud on another server but have not updated the host application for quite some time. On this new server, I am not sure which one is the "best" and since I am doing a new install I need to decide which one to use.
I've been running OwnCloud for the last five years or so, for my own needs, and also for a few clients.
I'm using it for basic things like file synchronization, contacts and calendar, with Linux, Windows, Android and iOS clients.
The "production" channel of the stable version JustWorks(tm) and *never* causes any trouble.
I know Nextcloud has the better licence and features galore, *but* as far as I can tell from various forum posts, they concentrate more on features and less on polishing.
So for the moment I guess I'll stay with OwnCloud. Never change a winning team.
I've written a few detailed blog posts about installing and maintaining OwnCloud on CentOS 7. They're in French, but I guess you can figure out the Unix bits. :o)
https://www.microlinux.fr/tag/owncloud/
Cheers,
Niki
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