What about the update announcements for Centos5? There was nothing posted to centos-announce yet for the updates that have been released so far for Centos5. Also, the centos-announce mailing list options page does not know about Centos5 yet.
Best regards, Bernd.
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 15:10 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote:
What about the update announcements for Centos5? There was nothing posted to centos-announce yet for the updates that have been released so far for Centos5. Also, the centos-announce mailing list options page does not know about Centos5 yet.
Best regards, Bernd.
I'm not posting 30 updates each for 2 arches (the release comes with all updates up to 4/12/07 included) .... I will create the filters for the announce list though.
On 4/14/07, Johnny Hughes mailing-lists@hughesjr.com wrote:
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 15:10 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote:
What about the update announcements for Centos5? There was nothing posted to centos-announce yet for the updates that have been released so far for Centos5. Also, the centos-announce mailing list options page does not know about Centos5 yet.
Best regards, Bernd.
I'm not posting 30 updates each for 2 arches (the release comes with all updates up to 4/12/07 included) .... I will create the filters for the announce list though.
The release images do NOT contain the updates. One has to install the updates AFTER installing the release. Upstream did also send out the announcements (At least for the security updates. BTW I still don't understand why upstream only announces security updates and not bug-fix and enhancement updates. IMHO all updates have to be announced as they are a change to the system that the admin / user has to be aware of).
Best regards, Bernd.
I'm not posting 30 updates each for 2 arches (the release comes with all updates up to 4/12/07 included) .... I will create the filters for the announce list though.
Johnny,
In the interest of productivity and time saving, please consider and do send out a **blanket announcement** for the arches with a single http:// URL telling people where to go to gather and read the announcements & info ...
I know, and you know, and many others know where to www to, yet it may save a lot of time and questions in the future.
Just a thought...
- rh
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On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 07:35 -0700, R Lists06 wrote:
I'm not posting 30 updates each for 2 arches (the release comes with all updates up to 4/12/07 included) .... I will create the filters for the announce list though.
Johnny,
In the interest of productivity and time saving, please consider and do send out a **blanket announcement** for the arches with a single http:// URL telling people where to go to gather and read the announcements & info ...
I know, and you know, and many others know where to www to, yet it may save a lot of time and questions in the future.
Just a thought...
Since I am a nice guy ... I did just do that :)
Thanks, Johnny Hughes
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 15:10 +0200, Bernd Bartmann wrote:
What about the update announcements for Centos5? There was nothing posted to centos-announce yet for the updates that have been released so far for Centos5. Also, the centos-announce mailing list options page does not know about Centos5 yet.
Best regards, Bernd.
I'm not posting 30 updates each for 2 arches (the release comes with all updates up to 4/12/07 included) .... I will create the filters for the announce list though.
I've always wondered why you produce so many announcements. Isn't one per package per release enough?
By the time they arrive here, with all the meaningless (to users) junk at the front of the subject line, it's really difficult to see whether the announcement is relevant to me.
Removing* the list name would help.
Having one announcement per package would help.
Having a separate list for each CentOS release would help.
* RH introduced the "insert list name into subject line" trick with Hurricane (RHL 5.0). The reaction was so negative, it abandoned the idea.
John Summerfield wrote:
I've always wondered why you produce so many announcements. Isn't one per package per release enough?
The reason why so many announcements get created is because there are different people doing different Arch's and different Release's - and machine speeds are very different on each platform.
Eg. the s390 pkgs for c4 take a while longer than the ia64 ( which is, by far the fastest platform we have at the moment ) - and in some cases the s390 can lag by days for large packages like the kernel updates etc. We dont want to hold back all updated arch's for the sake of 1 release announcement.
So for CentOS2.1/3/4 the situation wont change - with CentOS-5 we have a slightly better situation in that rather than 1 system per arch, our main arch's - i386 and x86_64 - are now building in sync, but we still have a different buildsystem for ppc and a completely different one for ia64 - so in the interest of keeping things sane and in the same format as users expect, update announcements are going to stay the way they are.
One thing worth pointing out here is that while we do produce a lot of announcements, users can easily filter the ones they want and just not receive the rest.
- KB
Thanks Johnny for sending out the zero day update announcements and extending the announcement mailing list filter!
And a big thanks to all the Centos developers for making the new release possible!
Best regards, Bernd.
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