On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Rajagopal Swaminathan < raju.rajsand@gmail.com> wrote:

Greetings,

hi, thanks.

Well, you need to download both to complete the installation for multiple languages; especially Indian languages.

I don't know about other languages (like cantonese, armenian or croatian).

I am also for Indian languages but which both are you telling....? These both--- CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrenthttp://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-6.0-x86_64-bin-DVD.torrent

and CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveCD.torrenthttp://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveCD.torrent or something else..........? What's the difference but...?

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rswrote:

Rajagopal was Totally INCORECT. He did not pay enough attention and made

a mistake.

You asked about difference between DVD and LiveDVD torrents, not between DVD1 and DVD2.

Correct answer:

• LiveDVD is meant for testing purposes, and it *should* have

possibility to install system on the hard disk. It can be also used to access dead system for repairs or data salvage.

• Regular DVD is for default installation media, consisting of 2 DVD's.

In default configuration only DVD1 is needed.

oh thanks for this explanation. Yes I wanted to know this one only. and bin-DVD torrent, I guess contains both the DVDs (which separately are written as DVD1 and DVD2). Okk..but I have to download the LIVE one since I have to check also....(if it gets adapted or not...) Said that, but I don't know if LIVE DVD is one only or two (but on the website its one, at http://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/ and may be after installation of one DVD it might be downloading things from the net..which are left aside for which bib-DVD has two parts....)

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Rob Kampen rkampen@kampensonline.comwrote:

Then I should download:

CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveDVD.isohttp://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveDVD.iso

since I would first check if it suits the hardware and then from the same DVD (on which I copy the image after downloading, of the above) I would install, would it be complete then? Complete in the sense that, it would have all the things...(since we are downloading the DVD, it should have.......)...??

Thanks Rob for the explicit clarification.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka@saunalahti.fiwrote:

If you install from LiveDVD, you will get exactly the same things

that are available on the Live system before installation. You can use the normal CentOS software management tools after installation to add packages form software repositories on the Internet.

See:

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Deployment_Guide/pt-pkg-management.htm... http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

Okay, but I am downloading Cent OS version 6 and you have provided me the link for 5, should I go for CentOS version 5, if it with more people so that people can support way better than 6?

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka@saunalahti.fiwrote:

CentOS hasn't published a Deployment Guide for version 6. The

package management software hasn't changed significantly from version 5. You can see the docs for RHEL6 but you need to figure out which parts don't apply to CentOS.

Oh I see.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rswrote:

My advice is to download LiveDVD for testing porposes, but regular DVD for installation. That way you will not miss out on anything from regular installation (in case LiveDVD is missing anything).

But since if I download the Live DVD, and cannot I install from it itself? (If) anything is missing, it could be installed from internet later..., is this possible or do I need to consume back the bandwidth for downloading non-LIVE image also....?

CentOS after installation is exactly what RHEL/upstream distributes, so there can/will be missing nVidia/ATI and possibly some other drivers. Those can be found in third party repositories (http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories) so do not worry about it, you will be able to set up your PC with all the drivers, with little meddling.

Oh yes, sure, thanks.

Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rswrote:

i am taking into account your lack of knowledge. IF LiveDVD lacks some

of the packages installed by default from installation DVD, then you will not know which those packages are. That was the whole point of my suggestion to go with regular installation DVD. I haven't got around to testing LiveDVD so I do not have the answer.

If you have time to risk it (play/learn) then by all means install from LiveDVD. It is not wrong, just might be the longer/harder way of reaching the same goal. And it may not be harder at all. Your choice/preference.

http://www.centos.org has links to Wiki and Forums, and this mailing list is available also, so you can investigate/learn/ask.

Oh thanks for the information but since you replied here so I thought, you must be knowing, but, as you say, you don't know, so not problem, I just download first Live DVD (since already started and also it would give me an idea if compatible or not) and then later see the other case. Any other knowledgeable person could tell here itself...

Thanks..

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.orgwrote:

For interactive feedback of this nature, you should consider using the

irc channel - that tends to be a lot more tailored to such conversations.

Hi,

Didn't get ...? That was I confused in downloading....in LIVE and bin-DVD...!

Thanks

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rs wrote:

IRC chating for CentOS: http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=8

??

Vreme: 11/29/2011 05:00 PM, LinuxIsOne piše:

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Karanbir Singhmail-lists@karan.orgwrote:

For interactive feedback of this nature, you should consider using the

...

irc channel - that tends to be a lot more tailored to such conversations.

I may be old fashioned, but I've never use the IRC stuff. I prefer emails, but yes I came to know that it should be non-interactive if it is a CentOS mailing list.

Right now, there are 50-80 mails per day on this mail list alone, without interactive one-sentence mails in 2-3 people conversation.

And there are 1000+ receivers of mail from mailing list (1+ million of installations ), not interested in your problems. For them, reading interactive mail is FUD, unnecessary junk wasting their time. Imagine communication for just 10 beginners asking/posting 20-30 mails (with replies of others).

So please respect them and use IRC/Forums for "trivial" support, and use this mailing list for more heavier questions and discussions (not producing high mail volume).

Vreme: 11/29/2011 06:22 PM, LinuxIsOne piše:

Sure and why not, I always give respect but I anticipate the same for newbies too, I hope you too would do that. ;)

I might *seam* hostile, I am certainly strongly opinionated, but in general I avoid attacking people, and will help any way I can. I am 10+ years in professional IT support, and I am accustomed to give precise answers and directions and expect people not to stray one bit so I can follow you in my mind (professional deformation and defense system), so as long as you follow what I suggest I will help you land on the moon. If you do not follow them, I will chuck you like an old shoe.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevicoffice@plnet.rswrote:

...

and use IRC/Forums for "trivial" support, and use this mailing list for more heavier questions and discussions (not producing high mail volume).

There is also Facebook "CentOS group" page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2371797727/ . You and any other member of CentOS community are welcome to join us and share info.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic office@plnet.rswrote:

I am accustomed to give precise answers and directions and expect people

not to stray one bit so I can follow you in my mind (professional deformation and defense system), so as long as you follow what I suggest I will help you land on the moon.

I am lucky then if you could do this, I would definitely follow your good advices. I hope to get more from you. I am happy that you are having such a nice experience.

Thanks.

On 11/29/2011 02:47 PM, LinuxIsOne wrote:

The meaning of saying so was only this that I didn't know what to download..., that's all. I guess you would not take it personally (if have taken...). Well I am absolutely new in the world of Linux, so it became typical for me.

The point was that mailing lists are not the best place to have such interactive conversations - try to use IRC instead, where you can actually chat with people in real'ish time and discuss issues etc.

So you should now go away and do a few things : read about what IRC is, read the page that explains about the centos channels ( Ljubomir's email had that link ). And do those things before you reply to this email.

- KB

Vreme: 11/29/2011 12:39 PM, LinuxIsOne piše:

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Rob Kampenrkampen@kampensonline.comwrote:

Then I should download:

CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveDVD.isohttp://mirrors.hns.net.in/centos/6.0/isos/x86_64/CentOS-6.0-x86_64-LiveDVD.iso

since I would first check if it suits the hardware and then from the same DVD (on which I copy the image after downloading, of the above) I would install, would it be complete then? Complete in the sense that, it would have all the things...(since we are downloading the DVD, it should have.......)...??

My advice is to download LiveDVD for testing porposes, but regular DVD for installation. That way you will not miss out on anything from regular installation (in case LiveDVD is missing anything).

CentOS after installation is exactly what RHEL/upstream distributes, so there can/will be missing nVidia/ATI and possibly some other drivers. Those can be found in third party repositories (http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories) so do not worry about it, you will be able to set up your PC with all the drivers, with little meddling.