Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2.
While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ?
What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.
I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days.
- KB
Karanbir Singh wrote on Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:32:25 +0100:
What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.
Point all "visible" 5.2 stuff to 5.3 and add a "if you are really looking for 5.2 and not the 5.3 follow here ..." With "visible" I mean everything that is not a sheer download location.
Kai
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-lists@karan.org wrote:
Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2.
While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ?
What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.
I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days.
- KB
The centos.org page doesn't have a news section in any obvious place, and the CentOS 5 section only just has the version number updated. If someone were not following the mailing lists or missed the announcement that one day on a news site, they might not notice that 5.3 was out.
It could be people downloading from links that are hard coded to 5.2. If you can see the referrer pages, that would probably help track that down (though only for http downloads).
Also, even though 5.3 should be completely compatible with 5.2, it doesn't mean that IT departments believe it, or at least need to go through internal testing before changing their internal process to use 5.3.
Brian Mathis wrote on Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:42:59 -0400:
The centos.org page doesn't have a news section in any obvious place, and the CentOS 5 section only just has the version number updated. If someone were not following the mailing lists or missed the announcement that one day on a news site, they might not notice that 5.3 was out.
Right. I didn't recently check centos.org, but he's right, there's no obvious sign of this major release. I would at least move the CentOS 5 section to the top. Or add a new news section on top that you specifically fill with what people should first see when they visit the page. You should also distribute this section via RSS. There is also nothing here on the "supposed" news page: http://www.centos.org/modules/news/index.php
Kai
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:32 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders
What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.
Make the announcement stand out more on centos.org maybe? Like a big banner just under the Home/Donate/Information etc-menu. That is to say, just a short blurb about the new release and a bigger font making use of a bold typeface when typing "new centos 5.3 release" and linking to the actual announcement further below. In fact, IMHO, I think the release announcement should be nearer or in the top of the page, or at least in the uppermost left column. Most read from left to right and start from the top. 8-}
While he first page is very informational, it's not a wonder of readability. No offence to the webmaster(s).
HTH.
on 4-6-2009 9:32 AM Karanbir Singh spake the following:
Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2.
While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ?
What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.
I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days.
- KB
You have seen enough people on this list that think they are completely different versions, and they might think that 5.2 is more stable. I can't count how many times we have had to tell someone that yum update makes their system whatever the current version is.
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