I currently have my Acer Aspire One netbook set up with Fedora 11. I would like to change it over to Centos 5.4 if I can.
I downloaded the Centos 5.4 i386 livecd image and made a bootable USB flash drive out of it. Unfortunately, when I boot off of that flash drive, Grub (I guess) immediately turns the screen entirely white. If I hit a key I can faintly see the outline of "Press tab to change options" or words to that effect. (It's very faint and hard to read against the white background.) That bit of text rapidly scrolls off of the top of the screen, so I assume that the rest of the boot-up messages are being printed.
Hitting Ctrl-Alt-anyFkey does nothing for a while, then every keystroke beeps. I can't get to a text terminal and I never see anything other than a completely white screen.
Am I doing something wrong? Fedora 11 works fine on this machine, and I installed that from a livecd.
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Frank Cox theatre@sasktel.net wrote:
I currently have my Acer Aspire One netbook set up with Fedora 11. I would like to change it over to Centos 5.4 if I can.
I downloaded the Centos 5.4 i386 livecd image and made a bootable USB flash drive out of it. Unfortunately, when I boot off of that flash drive, Grub (I guess) immediately turns the screen entirely white. If I hit a key I can faintly see the outline of "Press tab to change options" or words to that effect. (It's very faint and hard to read against the white background.) That bit of text rapidly scrolls off of the top of the screen, so I assume that the rest of the boot-up messages are being printed.
Hitting Ctrl-Alt-anyFkey does nothing for a while, then every keystroke beeps. I can't get to a text terminal and I never see anything other than a completely white screen.
Am I doing something wrong? Fedora 11 works fine on this machine, and I installed that from a livecd.
I'm not an expert on this, but IIRC, the CentOS live CD is not for installation at all, just for running CentOS live on a machine to see if it will work with said machine as if it were actually installed with the stock release drivers. To install, you should use the CentOS installation CD set or DVD.
Also, IIRC, Fedora 11 is at least 3 (or 5) generations of Fedora ahead of the base Red Hat for CentOS 5. Fedora 10 is supposed to be the base system for RH 6.
What you might try is backing up everything on your hard drive, install CentOS (reformatting the drive and all), and then locating any drivers you need that might be missing. This works better for older laptops since the CentOS (Red Hat) 5 drivers are not necessarily the L&G you might need for a new machine, like a netbook.
Personally, I would not bother putting an OS on a netbook that didn't come with it, but I also would not get a netbook at all - they are simply too small for me (vision issues, I like bigger screens, need larger fonts, etc.).
I bought an Everex refurb laptop on ebay recently, for mucho cheap, that, although it is not the hottest, fastest bugger around, has a 15.6" widescreen that is crystal clear, CentOS runs it just as well as the Ubuntu that came on it, and the only problem I have with it now is that the mike and phones plugs don't work., and those are under warranty....
Just my $0.02 or $0.03....
mhr
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 23:01 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
I currently have my Acer Aspire One netbook set up with Fedora 11. I would like to change it over to Centos 5.4 if I can.
I downloaded the Centos 5.4 i386 livecd image and made a bootable USB flash drive out of it. Unfortunately, when I boot off of that flash drive, Grub (I guess) immediately turns the screen entirely white. If I hit a key I can faintly see the outline of "Press tab to change options" or words to that effect. (It's very faint and hard to read against the white background.) That bit of text rapidly scrolls off of the top of the screen, so I assume that the rest of the boot-up messages are being printed.
Hitting Ctrl-Alt-anyFkey does nothing for a while, then every keystroke beeps. I can't get to a text terminal and I never see anything other than a completely white screen.
Am I doing something wrong? Fedora 11 works fine on this machine, and I installed that from a livecd.
---- did you create that USB disk using Fedora or CentOS?
does this relate? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes#Live_Image_issue...
Your description of the problem reminded me exactly of the problem I had when I tried to do the same thing to install F11 Beta
I can't think of any reason I would put CentOS on my Aspire One...I've got it working well with F12 now
Craig
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 03:51 -0700, Craig White wrote:
did you create that USB disk using Fedora or CentOS?
I created it using Centos 5.4.
does this relate? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes#Live_Image_issue...
The screenshot looks exactly like what I see. Which is interesting considering that neither the image or the system it was created on has anything to do with Fedora 11.
I can't think of any reason I would put CentOS on my Aspire One...I've got it working well with F12 now
I seem to have a choice between reinstalling Fedora on it (because I can't get it to update to Fedora 12) or installing Centos on it. Since they both involve a scratch install, I might as well install Centos on it so it will match my desktop machine.
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 09:41 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 03:51 -0700, Craig White wrote:
did you create that USB disk using Fedora or CentOS?
I created it using Centos 5.4.
does this relate? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes#Live_Image_issue...
The screenshot looks exactly like what I see. Which is interesting considering that neither the image or the system it was created on has anything to do with Fedora 11.
I can't think of any reason I would put CentOS on my Aspire One...I've got it working well with F12 now
I seem to have a choice between reinstalling Fedora on it (because I can't get it to update to Fedora 12) or installing Centos on it. Since they both involve a scratch install, I might as well install Centos on it so it will match my desktop machine.
I know this is a CentOS list, but personally I would go for Fedora 12. They have done some optimizations for netbooks and you will have get a lot more functionality due to the drivers included with Fedora 12 vs CentOS 5 (based on Fedora Core 6).
If you want wireless, Fedora is probably the easiest of the two. Any specific reasons why you want CentOS on a netbook? More specifically why you want enterprise Linux on your netbook?
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:54 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
If you want wireless, Fedora is probably the easiest of the two.
It's my understanding that Centos now includes support for the wireless networking in the Acer Aspire One.
Any specific reasons why you want CentOS on a netbook? More specifically why you want enterprise Linux on your netbook?
It's my last computer with Fedora on it. Everything else now runs Centos. So I figure that it it will work with Centos (which it apparently will) then I would like to have it match the rest of my stuff.
Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:54 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
If you want wireless, Fedora is probably the easiest of the two.
It's my understanding that Centos now includes support for the wireless networking in the Acer Aspire One.
Any specific reasons why you want CentOS on a netbook? More specifically why you want enterprise Linux on your netbook?
It's my last computer with Fedora on it. Everything else now runs Centos. So I figure that it it will work with Centos (which it apparently will) then I would like to have it match the rest of my stuff.
This is a bit offtopic, but latest UBuntu netbook remix runs nicely on Acer Aspire One.
-- Eero
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:07 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:54 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
If you want wireless, Fedora is probably the easiest of the two.
It's my understanding that Centos now includes support for the wireless networking in the Acer Aspire One.
Any specific reasons why you want CentOS on a netbook? More specifically why you want enterprise Linux on your netbook?
It's my last computer with Fedora on it. Everything else now runs Centos. So I figure that it it will work with Centos (which it apparently will) then I would like to have it match the rest of my stuff.
Alright. I can understand continuity. I personally keep CentOS for servers and Fedora for desktops and laptops.
How did you create the Live USB?
You may want to try using either a DVD install image or NetInstall image after backing up your netbooks drive.
I use uNetbootin to create USB images of DVDs & CDs for use in my EEEEEEEEEpc.
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:49 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
How did you create the Live USB?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo
I went through the "How to partition" and "How to format" sections,then the "Command Line Method - Linux only" subsection titled "Run livecd-iso-to-disk script".
You may want to try using either a DVD install image or NetInstall image after backing up your netbooks drive.
My Acer Aspire One has an internal hard drive and that's it.
When I installed Fedora on it, I put a Fedora livecd on a usb flashdrive (the same one I'm trying to use for this job, in fact) and it just worked.
If I could get a netinstall or something going on this, that would suit me too. But again, I have no external drives for it.
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 15:18 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 14:49 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
How did you create the Live USB?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo
I went through the "How to partition" and "How to format" sections,then the "Command Line Method - Linux only" subsection titled "Run livecd-iso-to-disk script".
You may want to try using either a DVD install image or NetInstall image after backing up your netbooks drive.
My Acer Aspire One has an internal hard drive and that's it.
I know, so does my EEEpc. But I used Unetbootin (a package that is available in Fedora (yum install unetbootin).
It allows you to create a Live USB using any CD or DVD image. So for example, I could use unetbootin to get the CentOS 5.4 netinstall CD on my USB key without having to anything but selecting the iso and USB drive I want.
You will need to run it with root privileges though. But basically put in the USB stick, fire up unetbootin and go from there.
Once you reboot onto the USB key just select the first option in the unetbootin menu and it should launch the netinstall CD. You will probably have to plug it into a wired network as well, I have never had a netinstall disk working with wireless, especially in CentOS.
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 17:51 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
I know, so does my EEEpc. But I used Unetbootin (a package that is available in Fedora (yum install unetbootin).
For some reason, a USB flash drive created with unetbootin and containing CentOS-5.4-i386-netinstall.iso didn't boot on my Acer Aspire One. I got a boot: prompt and no matter what I typed I kept getting "Can't find linux" "can't find centos" "cant find... whatever I typed
So I gave up.
I purchased an external DVD drive, which will in all likelihood come in handy for some other stuff anyway.
CentOS-5.4-i386-netinstall.iso burned onto a CD booted fine with the external DVD drive and I installed Centos 5.4 on my Acer Aspire One late this afternoon.
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Frank Cox theatre@sasktel.net wrote:
My Acer Aspire One has an internal hard drive and that's it.
When I installed Fedora on it, I put a Fedora livecd on a usb flashdrive (the same one I'm trying to use for this job, in fact) and it just worked.
Well, yeah, that's what it's supposed to do. When you boot from a "livecd" image, that's all you're doing - booting from that image. It doesn't install anything.
If I could get a netinstall or something going on this, that would suit me too. But again, I have no external drives for it.
Again, I'm no expert here, but if you can get a livecd image written on a USB flash drive to boot, you should be able to get a netinstall cd image to boot just as well, from a USB drive. That "should" do the trick (if it will boot at all).
Someone, please, correct me if I'm wrong....
mhr
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 15:06 -0800, MHR wrote:
Again, I'm no expert here, but if you can get a livecd image written on a USB flash drive to boot, you should be able to get a netinstall cd image to boot just as well, from a USB drive. That "should" do the trick (if it will boot at all).
I think that's the next thing I'm going to try. The netinstall would be handier than the livecd, if I can make it work.
I was going for the Centos livecd simply because that's what I did to get Fedora on it and I figured I could just do the same thing again. Apparently not.
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 17:43 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 15:06 -0800, MHR wrote:
Again, I'm no expert here, but if you can get a livecd image written on a USB flash drive to boot, you should be able to get a netinstall cd image to boot just as well, from a USB drive. That "should" do the trick (if it will boot at all).
I think that's the next thing I'm going to try. The netinstall would be handier than the livecd, if I can make it work.
I was going for the Centos livecd simply because that's what I did to get Fedora on it and I figured I could just do the same thing again. Apparently not.
I sent a message about using unetbootin to get regular CD and DVDs bootable off of USB without much work needed... if you didnt want to try and round up an external DVD drive to use.
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 19:24 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
I sent a message about using unetbootin to get regular CD and DVDs bootable off of USB without much work needed...
That's my plan for tomorrow.
if you didnt want to try and round up an external DVD drive to use.
And I'll look into that next week if I really have to.
I borrowed a USB DVD to do the install of CentOS 5.3 on the Acer One. Unfortunately I don't know anything about livecd images.
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Frank Cox theatre@sasktel.net wrote:
I currently have my Acer Aspire One netbook set up with Fedora 11. I would like to change it over to Centos 5.4 if I can.
I downloaded the Centos 5.4 i386 livecd image and made a bootable USB flash drive out of it. Unfortunately, when I boot off of that flash drive, Grub (I guess) immediately turns the screen entirely white. If I hit a key I can faintly see the outline of "Press tab to change options" or words to that effect. (It's very faint and hard to read against the white background.) That bit of text rapidly scrolls off of the top of the screen, so I assume that the rest of the boot-up messages are being printed.
Hitting Ctrl-Alt-anyFkey does nothing for a while, then every keystroke beeps. I can't get to a text terminal and I never see anything other than a completely white screen.
Am I doing something wrong? Fedora 11 works fine on this machine, and I installed that from a livecd.
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On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 11:36 -0800, Agile Aspect wrote:
I borrowed a USB DVD to do the install of CentOS 5.3 on the Acer One. Unfortunately I don't know anything about livecd images.
I'm starting to think I might have to do the same thing. I managed to install Fedora on the Acer Aspire One from a livecd that I put on my usb flash drive and it "just worked", but this isn't and I'm doing the same thing now that I did before with Fedora.
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Frank Cox theatre@sasktel.net wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 11:36 -0800, Agile Aspect wrote:
I borrowed a USB DVD to do the install of CentOS 5.3 on the Acer One. Unfortunately I don't know anything about livecd images.
I'm starting to think I might have to do the same thing. I managed to install Fedora on the Acer Aspire One from a livecd that I put on my usb flash drive and it "just worked", but this isn't and I'm doing the same thing now that I did before with Fedora.
This doesn't sound right. You should be able to boot and run from the livecd image, whether on an actual CD or on a USB drive, but AFAIK livecd images *run*, they don't *install*.
Again, experts, please correct me if I'm off-base here. I'm not familiar with Fedora images, though I imagine that they operate the same general way as RH/CentOS images since they all share the same base code.
mhr
Again, experts, please correct me if I'm off-base here. I'm not familiar with Fedora images, though I imagine that they operate the same general way as RH/CentOS images since they all share the same base code.
Not considering myself an expert, but the Fedora Live CD has an option to install to the hard drive after booting it on a USB key.
On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 15:08 -0800, MHR wrote:
This doesn't sound right. You should be able to boot and run from the livecd image, whether on an actual CD or on a USB drive, but AFAIK livecd images *run*, they don't *install*.
When I boot the Centos livecd I get the white screen that was mentioned earlier in this thread.
When I installed Fedora on my Acer Aspire One I booted the Fedora livecd off of a flash drive and clicked on the "install to hard drive" icon that was on the livecd's desktop. I had planned to do the same thing with Centos but can't because I get that white screen almost instantly when I boot the livecd. (I don't even get to see the initial grub screen.)
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