Mr. Parsley, the main man at the Tao Linux group, has announced that he will no longer be able to do his thing for Tao Linux. Just recently, I had decided to investigate CentOS 4 before his announcement, and liked a lot of what I saw. Due to the Tao announcement, I have decided that CentOS will "have" to be the OS for my company in the future. Hence, my new membership to this list.
I would like any opionions any of you may have to offer, and perhaps, some suggestions on migration to CentOS 3.7 from Tao 1 Update 6.
I have usually applied updates only when needed on my current servers. Some cannot be updated due to the commercial applications being ran on them. So my first concern is the lateral migration to make CentOS 3 work on my current Tao 1 machines.
The next phase, which would have happened with Tao anyway, would be to upgrade to the 2.6 kernel of the newer release. Obviously, this will be CentOS 4 instead of Tao 4 now, but that will be much later.
I apologize for the length of this, but could use the hindsight, or any other vision, that you might have on this switch over. My first thoughts would be that it shouldn't be that difficult, as both are based on the same sources, but things never seem to be as easy as I think they should. Most of my servers are service related (mailservers, web servers, etc), so this will need to be something I think about if there are great differences of which I am not aware. Unfortunately, I do not have spares to start from, so any suggestions should be based on upgrade/migrate versus installation.
I couldn't find any "searchable" archives, and most of what I see is 4.3 related anyway, so I am sorry for not doing a lot of homework yet. But I will do my homework. Mr. Parsley has indicated that this is not urgent. I have nothing but respect for his efforts.
Thanks for any time and suggestions you may have.
Steve Campbell campbell@cnpapers.com Charleston Newspapers
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Steve Campbell wrote:
Mr. Parsley, the main man at the Tao Linux group, has announced that he will no longer be able to do his thing for Tao Linux.
Where has that been announced ???
Just recently, I had decided to investigate CentOS 4 before his announcement, and liked a lot of what I saw. Due to the Tao announcement, I have decided that CentOS will "have" to be the OS for my company in the future. Hence, my new membership to this list.
Welcome ...
I would like any opionions any of you may have to offer, and perhaps, some suggestions on migration to CentOS 3.7 from Tao 1 Update 6.
I have usually applied updates only when needed on my current servers. Some cannot be updated due to the commercial applications being ran on them. So my first concern is the lateral migration to make CentOS 3 work on my current Tao 1 machines.
The migration to CentOS 3 should be fairly seamless. As you say - the package source is the same.
We need to work out a migration mechanism, but mainly it will involve changes to config files. We would obviously like to do some testing to make sure that there are no nasties lurking.
One issue may be if you have used the 'protectbase' extra that tao added to yum. We do have a version of yum 2.4 ready for CentOS 3.x , that will provide equivalent functionality (and lots more) - which we will expedite into testing.
Regards
Lance Davis
Mr. Davis, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Davis" lance@uklinux.net To: "CentOS mailing list" centos@centos.org Cc: "David Parsley" parsley@linuxjedi.org Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS] New member, new OS, old Tao user
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Steve Campbell wrote:
Mr. Parsley, the main man at the Tao Linux group, has announced that he will no longer be able to do his thing for Tao Linux.
Where has that been announced ???
Mr. Parsley notified members of the Tao list that this was forthcoming. I don't suppose he had much reason to 'publicly' announce the decision. It was a personal decision that everyone would agree with, and I have all the respect in the world for him in making his decision.
Just recently, I had decided to investigate CentOS 4 before his announcement, and liked a lot of what I saw. Due to the Tao announcement, I have decided that CentOS will "have" to be the OS for my company in the future. Hence, my new membership to this list.
Welcome ...
Thank you. I look forward to "meeting" all of you in the CentOS lists.
I would like any opionions any of you may have to offer, and perhaps, some suggestions on migration to CentOS 3.7 from Tao 1 Update 6.
I have usually applied updates only when needed on my current servers. Some cannot be updated due to the commercial applications being ran on them. So my first concern is the lateral migration to make CentOS 3 work on my current Tao 1 machines.
The migration to CentOS 3 should be fairly seamless. As you say - the package source is the same.
We need to work out a migration mechanism, but mainly it will involve changes to config files. We would obviously like to do some testing to make sure that there are no nasties lurking.
That would be great. I found a link in the archives that make some quick suggestions on how to approach this. It was for the S390 version, but it appears to be a great starting point.
One issue may be if you have used the 'protectbase' extra that tao added to yum. We do have a version of yum 2.4 ready for CentOS 3.x , that will provide equivalent functionality (and lots more) - which we will expedite into testing.
I use it on some machines, and others I skip.
Regards
Lance Davis
Thanks for the fast responses I am seeing.
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Hi,
On 5/26/06, Lance Davis lance@uklinux.net wrote:
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Steve Campbell wrote:
Mr. Parsley, the main man at the Tao Linux group, has announced that he will no longer be able to do his thing for Tao Linux.
Where has that been announced ???
Apparently it was first announced publicly by Steve Campbell on the CentOS list. ;-)
I am, in fact, planning to retire from Tao Linux; I've started by first polling fellow developers and a few users on what folks would like to see happen. I would appreciate if this doesn't hit slashdot before I've considered the input I've gotten and formed a definite plan.
Steve - no worries, man. I would have preferred you not mail the CentOS public list, but that's water under the bridge.
Regards, David
It is recommended when moving from 3.x to 4.x to do a clean install. 4.x has stuff like SELINUX, 2.6 kernel etc
You can also search the archives at http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
The CentOS forum is also worth checking out at http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/
The docs directory at http://www.centos.org/docs/4/ is also worth checking out.
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On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 09:08 -0700, Mike Stankovic wrote:
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You can also search the archives at http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
AFAICT, only manually. I've not found a "search" tool there.
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--- "William L. Maltby" BillsCentOS@triad.rr.com wrote:
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 09:08 -0700, Mike Stankovic wrote:
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You can also search the archives at http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
AFAICT, only manually. I've not found a "search" tool there.
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There is a custom google search box that searches "lists.centos.org" on that page check it out.
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On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 09:08 -0700, Mike Stankovic wrote:
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You can also search the archives at http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
<embarrassed> Forgot about the BIG BOX BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE INDIVIDUAL LISTS! </embarrassed>
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