[Arm-dev] EPEL 7 for ARM

Karanbir Singh mail-lists at karan.org
Thu Jul 28 13:57:22 UTC 2016

On 28/07/16 13:37, Gordan Bobic wrote:
> IMO what is needed is the definitive decision from the project
> maintainers on what the "correct" way of producing the EPEL package
> builds is.


lets thrash that out, arm32 isnt really project run, its a community
supported effort thats largely unorganised. Fabian took it up on
evenings and weekends to get it moving forward, and it was  great
bootstrap - but perhaps its time to organise the group better.

Johnny and I spoke a bit around this issue on IRC a few minutes back,
for now it might be best to keep churning where the packages are - and
then try to organise the effort collaboratively ( ie. lets not block the
existing process waiting to get better organised ).


> Putting all the EPEL7 packages through mock is fairly trivial and
> wouldn't take more than a matter of days to churn through on an
> 8-core ARMv8 with tons of RAM.
> The part that would be human-intensive is resolving the FTBFS issues
> for the (relatively small) number of packages that hit those.
> On 2016-07-28 13:31, Ed Brand wrote:
>> There are willing users on this thread. Just need access to the build
>> systems. Is there a fedora group/SIG/sponsorship needed?
>> On 07/28/2016 08:23 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>> On 28/07/16 13:18, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>>> On 07/28/2016 07:09 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>>>> On 07/28/2016 06:57 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>>>>> On 28/07/16 01:26, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>>>>>>> I believe it is still going through pass-2 or so. There are a couple
>>>>>>> of problems in that a couple of things which could be 'jump-started'
>>>>>>> from x86_64 fedora 18 -> epel x86_64 do not exist because Fedora
>>>>>>> arm32
>>>>>>> was not as available then. This means having to go to newer versions
>>>>>>> than what is in EPEL so the two chains do not meet. I have finally
>>>>>>> finished my move across the country and am able to start trying
>>>>>>> to get
>>>>>>> these together for a build tree. I will be happy to help people
>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>> community if they step up.
>>>>>> thanks Stephen,
>>>>>> Would it help if we were to get some arm32 builders online behind
>>>>>> cbs.centos.org / koji ?
>>>>> IMHO, we need to decide one way to try to build EPEL for alternative
>>>>> arches.  If we want to use CBS, then we can do that.
>>>>> Currently for both arm32 and aarch64 we are using the distro build and
>>>>> not koji for EPEL build.
>>>>> I don't really have a preference but we need to define the process and
>>>>> stick to it and not keep hopping around.
>>>>> We do need koji arm32 builders for SIG content regardless of how we
>>>>> do EPEL.
>>>>> But shifting systems mid stream (ie, we are building EPEL now) is not
>>>>> the best idea.
>>>> To discuss this in a bit more detail:
>>>> 1.  If we are going to actually try to do what EPEL does on alt arches
>>>> (That is, recruit individual maintainers for individual packages for
>>>> different arches) .. then we need to do this on CBS
>>>> (hopefully that will not be necessary, hopefully EPEL will do this so
>>>> that CentOS does not have to do a completely different program that is
>>>> the same thing as EPEL).
>>>> 2.  If, in the interim (before EPEL does build these arches), we
>>>> want to
>>>> try to produce the things that build with little or no modification
>>>> on a
>>>> best effort type build .. well then, we would want to use the distro
>>>> build system for the flexibility it gives.  (You can build each arch
>>>> independently, one arch does not impact the others, you can have
>>>> modified packages between arches, etc. much more easily not using
>>>> koji).
>>>> So, it really depends on what we are trying to accomplish.
>>> the key here is to build the user story. at the moment there is none,
>>> all the above is the provider side which is easily replaced / discarded
>>> / rehashed as needed.
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