On Thursday, January 06, 2011 05:22:44 am Karanbir Singh wrote: > Hi Lamar, Good evening, Karanbir. > The time concern is an interesting one. My commitment average is between > 25 to 30 hrs a week, pretty much every week of the year. That's actually lower than I suspected, honestly. > But step aside from that idea for a minute. The way things look from my > end of the spectrum is if someone was to not take on a single package, > but an entire role. Useful indeed, and a good thought. > > Coming back to your question : if I was to pick a number out of thin > air, based on weather conditions and what I *feel*, 5 - 8 hrs a week... [snip] That's useful information, and about what I expected. That's approximately what I did between major releases of PostgreSQL; a major version bump usually meant more work. > While we are on the subject - its worth noting that a *lot* of the dev / > admin / infra / management stuff around CentOS is done on IRC, not in > the lists. So anyone wanting to get involved should really consider > parking there ( the not-for-end-user channels are extremely low traffic ). For those that, for one reason or another, don't do IRC, are those channels logged, and are those logs published anywhere? That by itself may inject some transparency (as opposed to openness; they are different things, and I'm more interested in transparency than openness, as I suspect some others are as well). That is if those IRC logs *can* be published, or if it's desired and allowed for them to be published. One other project I was involved in, where I helped maintain the PostgreSQL database backend driver for the AOLserver multithreaded application/webserver, also did much work over chat, but it was AIM instead of IRC; the logs were archived and browseable/searchable. With the developers spread over multiple timezones it wasn't the most productive thing in the world. For all I know the logs are already published, but, just in case they're not.... for all I know there may some automated way of doing that that I'm not aware of (since I don't do IRC, and for that matter can't do IRC at this location). I think the word is 'bot' for an automatic chat attendee that does things in proxy for a user, no? IRC noob here... I can count on one hand the number of chats I've participated in, and on two fingers the number of channels I've logged into (fedora-astronomy was one, and I think I attended another fedora-related chat, but I don't recall). For that matter, if logs were periodically sent to a mailing list, or an RSS feed.... :-) If someone can point me to the tools I could set that up, and learn something in the process. Comments?