Hi Lamar, On 01/06/2011 11:08 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: >> The time concern is an interesting one. My commitment average is between >> 25 to 30 hrs a week, pretty much every week of the year. > That's actually lower than I suspected, honestly. There is still the 40hrs/week day job to think about.. gota eat :) >> While we are on the subject - its worth noting that a *lot* of the dev / >> admin / infra / management stuff around CentOS is done on IRC, not in > For those that, for one reason or another, don't do IRC, are those channels logged, and are those logs published anywhere? That by itself may inject some transparency (as opposed to openness; they are different things, and I'm more interested in transparency than openness, as I suspect some others are as well). That is if those IRC logs *can* be published, or if it's desired and allowed for them to be published. One other project I was involved in, where I helped maintain the PostgreSQL database backend driver for the AOLserver multithreaded application/webserver, also did much work over chat, but it was AIM instead of IRC; the logs were archived and browseable/searchable. With the developers spread over multiple timezones it wasn't the most productive thing in the world. Traditionally the view taken for channel loggers has been that there are people who spend time there, are well known and dont want logs kept. So it was advised that use irssi in screen, lurk and build your own logs; Also, the infra channel is not public, for obvious reasons. All security, setup and donor specific conversations take place there - and making that public is going to be extremely hard. - KB