On Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:28:09 -0400, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists at karan.org> wrote: > On 08/17/2012 02:03 PM, Matthew Patton wrote: >> There are a skillion shell scripts for KVM/QEMU, Xen, embedded >> firewalls, >> etc. that use 'vconfig' because that's how it's been done for ages. > > Could you point at some of these that are in wide use ? Right now I'm mostly involved in CLoudStack but there are many people who have written their own replacements to the (well, used to be) retarded Xen vifbr-up scripts that shipped with Xen and KVM for many years. I'm sure you can find lots of %pre/$post anaconda scripts that use it too. If you Google "add a vlan to an interface" or "create kvm bridge network" I'd say it's 99.5%+ all 'vconfig' and I have yet to see an 'ip add link' citation in the search results. If the attitude is "too bad, we obsoleted it, get over it" in classic unix-snobbery fasion, fine. I'll deal. My retort to those who decided that vconfig should be deprecated is, why not rewrite it as a shell script wrapper around 'ip' with a nice stderr of "hey, this tool is deprecated." -- Cloud Services Architect, Senior System Administrator InfoRelay Online Systems (www.inforelay.com)