On 08/17/2012 07:29 PM, Matthew Patton wrote: > If the attitude is "too bad, we obsoleted it, get over it" in classic > unix-snobbery fasion, fine. I'll deal. My retort to those who decided that > vconfig should be deprecated is, why not rewrite it as a shell script > wrapper around 'ip' with a nice stderr of "hey, this tool is deprecated." Not sure what side of the bed you got out of this morning... The point here is : your assumption that a way to achieve something as being missing from the minimal iso is wrong. Now if you want to have a specific tool brought into the distro, which there is scope to do, need to justify it. We have plenty of room on the minimal iso to add more things in - but lets not just randomly add stuff in. Lets leave the numbers of of your ass like '99.5% of the people use vconfig' out. Unless you have done a survey of everyone who does vlan configs as a matter of routine and can point us at it. Secondly, I did google "add vlan to an interface centos" and the first 5 hits all talk about using the sysconfig scripts - which in turn use ip and not vconfig. I didnt bother looking any further. So, take a breath. I am sure can all understand that while there are multiple ways of doing things, and the fact that there is historic convention that might be at play here - lets still ensure a tangible reason to make the addition exists. So with that in mind, fancy trying again ? -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219 | Yahoo IM: z00dax | Gtalk: z00dax GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc