2017-10-21 12:27 GMT+02:00 Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com>: > Also, because it's in an etherpad, and is thus subject to alteration or > vandalization, I'll also put a copy below for posterity. > > If there are any parts of this which are unclear to those that weren't > present, we encourage you to start a new thread per topic for further > discussion. > > Thanks! > > =================================== > > > CentOS Contributors Day, CERN > Thursday, October 19th, 2017 > > https://indico.cern.ch/event/660692/overview > > 09:00 multiarch CI status > > 09:30 cross-SIG CI > > 10:00 workflow/process for deprecating SIG contents > > 10:30 allow SIGs to have separate accounts for build bots > > 11:00 Manage CBS multiarch at minor release ; quicker access to packages > than distribution does, delegate more (i686?), etc... > > 11:30 OPEN FLOOR, work/hack session. > > 12:00 LUNCH > > 14:00 - 15:00 Datacenter tour > > 16:30 - 17:30 ATLAS experiment > > > > Topics proposals: > - multiarch CI status? (Scheduled) > - cross-SIG CI ? (Scheduled) > - workflow/process for deprecating SIG contents. +2 (Scheduled) > - allow SIGs to have separate accounts for build bots. +1 (Scheduled) > - Manage CBS multiarch at minor release ; quicker access to packages > than distribution does, delegate more (i686?), etc... (Scheduled) > - (mrunge) a kind of work session (?) if there is anything to be > done/fixed "right now"? > - Building embargoed content > > Notes: > > Introductions > > Multiarch CI (Haikel) > - no automated ci for all platforms > - if you're using CI, please subscribe to ci-user-list > - ppc64(le) machines are available, but request is manual right now. > - aarch64 boxes are small, community donated. Power-capacity is way bigger > - more detail on the multiarch page in the wiki (not able to find it > through https://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/CI/Duffy ) > - https://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/CI/Multiarch > - use cico client for interaction wih CI system > - cicoclient multiarch support has been merged => > https://github.com/CentOS/python-cicoclient/pull/14 > - suggestion to use zuul instead of jenkins for managing job queues > - AI on alphacc: add template for requesting sync to buildlogs to mention > architectures etc... > > Cross sig ci (Haikel) > - sig start depending on other SIGs, (multiple examples given) > - question on how to test pre-released packages > - to test against extras, SIG should provide tests to t_functional from > CentOS QA. Wiki page is located at https://wiki.centos.org/ > QaWiki/AutomatedTests/WritingTests/t_functional. git is located at > https://github.com/CentOS/sig-core-t_functional. Results are to be found > at https://ci.centos.org/ (search for "pretest" for results before > package release and for "t_functional" for daily tests) > - define a matrix for SIGs depending on each other trigger tests - start > email thread on ci-users list, create dependency graph from centos-release-* > - CI and CBS meeting on Mondays on #centos-devel > - CICO statistics are partially available through CentOS Zabbix instance > > > Workflow/process for deprecating SIG contents (mrunge) > - Historically we do not delete content ever. But we can move it to the > archive/vault, and stop distributing it by default > - reasons to remove packages from the repository (move to vault.c.o): > - newer package in the (base) release > - dependency not needed any more from a newer release of your package > - end of life for versions (centos-release-gluster with per-version > repositories) > - need a workflow for deprecating/removing a package > - SIGs are for experimentation - it's not for the distro to tell them how > to run their process. > - single package removal by untagging - also needs update to KB's sync > script > - whole repository removal by filing a bug, > > > Allow SIGs to have separate accounts for build bots > - separate user accounts from "bot" accounts for security reasons > - [proposal] have an email alias (not list) per sig for the bots, like > sig-<bla>@centos.org pointing to the SIG's chair > - [proposal] SIG chair must request or approve email alias requests/ ACO > account creation sent to CentOS Board chairman > > Package Signing > - SIG chairs should request feedback/insight into the package signing > process --> KB > - sometimes, there is a delay in package signing/sync to mirror.centos.org > - have keys been generated securely (known bugs in package versions that > make less secure keys?) > > > > Sig request for sig specific git > sigs would like to use centpkg / lookaside, build direct through git to > koji > authentication requirements to accounts.centos.org > Fabian to evaluate git solutions and report back to sig chairs. > mrunge has volunteered to be the "guinea pig" of the new system > > > Manage CBS multiarch at minor release ; quicker access to packages than > distribution does, delegate more (i686?), etc... > - pre-CR buildroot for koji? > - does any SIG build against c7/i686? No, probably not > - For 7.4 building all the Alt-Arches took additional time, thus delaying > the release. There is work being done to improve this for future releases > - is it possible to spread the load for contributors for building on alt > arches? > > Other topics > > * Building embargoed patches > - current practise: build as soon as the embargo is lifted - wait for > sign+push to mirror > - improvements possible for signing packages faster > Any improvement on this topic since October? > > * Board requirements/policy around SIG status? > - SIG chair missing: SIG may elect a new a chair and notify board > - inactive SIG members are disabled after some period. > - Define sane defaults in the SIG startup guide as a baseline (Patches > welcomed!) > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:54 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> wrote: > >> The notes from the pre-dojo meeting at CERN, yesterday, may be found in >> the etherpad at https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/cern-centos- >> thursday >> >> Those involved in the various discussion topics are requested to >> elaborate, where appropriate. >> >> Thanks to everyone who attended this very productive discussion. >> >> --Rich >> -- >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbowen at redhat.com >> @rbowen // @rdocommunity // @CentOSProject >> 859 351 9166 <(859)%20351-9166> >> > -- > -- > Rich Bowen - rbowen at redhat.com > @rbowen // @rdocommunity // @CentOSProject > 859 351 9166 > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-devel mailing list > CentOS-devel at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel > > -- SANDRO BONAZZOLA ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION R&D Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/> sbonazzo at redhat.com <https://red.ht/sig> <https://redhat.com/summit> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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