[CentOS-devel] Missing -devel packages

On 8/11/20 8:38 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 8/10/20 3:41 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:29 PM Orion Poplawski <orion at nwra.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there anything I can do to help out with missing -devel packages in CentOS
>>> 8?  I'm waiting for a number of them, e.g.:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=17401
>>>
>> Hi Orion,
>> It helps if it is linked to this ticket.
>> https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=16492
>> Although nothing has happened there for 5 months.
>>
>> To be clear, there is two definitions of "missing -devel packages"
>>
>> There are the ones that have never shown up anywhere  (I'm still
>> waiting on 4 I believe)
>>
>> And then there are the ones that originally showed up, and we were
>> able to build from them in EPEL8, but then when RHEL 8.2 came along,
>> the EPEL8 packages are still the old ones from RHEL 8.1.
>> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9580
> 
> And while we would love to just publish these .. we can not.
> 
> There are competing goals here.  Bit for bit like RHEL .. RHEL does not
> have the SRPMS, we should not.
> 
> Someone wants the SRPMS .. so they want us to like RHEL .. except when
> they don't.  All our build system and where we pull info assumes we need
> to be the same.  Introducing things were we are not is HARD ..
> especially in el8 as we HAVE to use koji and mbox and pungi to build.
> Introducing differences into compose configurations for pungi for
> releases is HARD .. it has follow on impacts .. and we need a system in
> place to make it continue to work when we get updated compose files in
> the future.
> 
> We have people working on this, but it is just not a priority compared
> to getting things released on time and builds working properly.  It is
> not just a simple .. push a couple packages somewhere.

I understand that it's not the top priority, and there is work involved. 
  But it did seem like a process was defined so that it wasn't such a 
crazy thing to do.  But maybe it is.

As Troy noted, a number of packages have been published, including 
libuv-devel from the above report.  I'll make some notes in those bug 
reports.  But others are still missing, including for example libtar-devel.

Thanks again for your work, and maybe someday others will be able to 
help you.

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