[CentOS-devel] Reminder: CentOS 6 EOL on 30 November 2020

Wed Dec 2 23:57:52 UTC 2020
Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu>

On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 5:59 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote:

> On 12/2/20 4:26 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
> > On 12/2/20 11:36 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:17 PM Stephen John Smoogen <smooge at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:smooge at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 16:09, Phelps, Matthew
> >>     <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu <mailto:mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 3:43 PM Patrick Riehecky
> >>         <riehecky at fnal.gov <mailto:riehecky at fnal.gov>> wrote:
> >>
> >>             Some folks may continue running EL6 based systems, but we
> >>             need to make
> >>             sure it is obvious that we're not providing any security
> >>             updates.
> >>             Moving the repos off the mirror network will provide a
> >>             hint to folks
> >>             doing a simple 'yum update' that something is not the way
> >>             it once was.
> >>
> >>
> >>             Pat
> >>
> >>
> >>         Whoa!
> >>
> >>         What will happen if I run a "yum update" on a CO6 machine? We
> >>         have it run automatically at reboot and I need to know what
> >>         will happen so I can see if the rest of the scripts we run at
> >>         startup will be OK.
> >>
> >>         Yes we are updating them, but it's hard to do when you can't
> >>         go onsite due to COVID.
> >>
> >>
> >>     You will get every system running through messages like this
> >>
> >>
> >>     [root at linode01 ~]# yum update
> >>     Loaded plugins: etckeeper, fastestmirror
> >>     Setting up Update Process
> >>     Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> >>     epel/metalink
> >>                                                | 2.5 kB     00:00
> >>     epel-testing/metalink
> >>                                                | 2.6 kB     00:00
> >>      * base: mirror.dal10.us.leaseweb.net
> >>     <http://mirror.dal10.us.leaseweb.net>
> >>      * epel: d2lzkl7pfhq30w.cloudfront.net
> >>     <http://d2lzkl7pfhq30w.cloudfront.net>
> >>      * epel-testing: d2lzkl7pfhq30w.cloudfront.net
> >>     <http://d2lzkl7pfhq30w.cloudfront.net>
> >>      * extras: mirror.netdepot.com <http://mirror.netdepot.com>
> >>      * updates: mirrors.usinternet.com <http://mirrors.usinternet.com>
> >>
> http://mirror.dal10.us.leaseweb.net/centos/6.10/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml
> >>     <
> http://mirror.dal10.us.leaseweb.net/centos/6.10/os/i386/repodata/repomd.xml
> >:
> >>     [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error:
> >>     404 Not Found"
> >>     Trying other mirror.
> >>     To address this issue please refer to the below wiki article
> >>
> >>     https://wiki.centos.org/yum-errors
> >>     <https://wiki.centos.org/yum-errors>
> >>
> >>     If above article doesn't help to resolve this issue please use
> >>     https://bugs.centos.org/ <https://bugs.centos.org/>.
> >>     http://bay.uchicago.edu/centos/6.10/extras/i386/repodata/repomd.xml
> <http://bay.uchicago.edu/centos/6.10/extras/i386/repodata/repomd.xml>:
> >>     [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error:
> >>     404 Not Found"
> >>     Trying other mirror.
> >>
> >>     until it finds some mirror which will work (that one mirror seems
> >>     to be updating for everyone in the world so is very slow).
> >>
> >>     or it will do the following:
> >>
> >>     [root at linode01 ~]# yum clean all
> >>     Loaded plugins: etckeeper, fastestmirror
> >>     Cleaning repos: base cr epel epel-testing extras updates
> >>     Cleaning up Everything
> >>     Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
> >>     [root at linode01 ~]# yum update
> >>     Loaded plugins: etckeeper, fastestmirror
> >>     Setting up Update Process
> >>     Determining fastest mirrors
> >>     YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
> >>      Eg. Invalid release/repo/arch combination/
> >>     removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors:
> >>     /var/cache/yum/i386/6/base/mirrorlist.txt
> >>     Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base
> >>     [root at linode01 ~]# echo $?
> >>     1
> >>     [root at linode01 ~]# yum list all
> >>     Loaded plugins: etckeeper, fastestmirror
> >>     Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
> >>     YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
> >>      Eg. Invalid release/repo/arch combination/
> >>     removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors:
> >>     /var/cache/yum/i386/6/base/mirrorlist.txt
> >>     Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base
> >>
> >>     so basically the system can not find anything/do anything until a
> >>     working mirror is there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm not really very happy with this throwing an error.
> >>
> >> I get it. People need to upgrade. But breaking things that are part of
> >> automated processes is a crappy way to get the message across.
> >>
> >> As I mentioned, upgrades will take some time still, and now I have
> >> more work to deal with our unupgraded systems, so now it will take
> >> even longer to upgrade.
> >>
> >> Thanks a bunch.
> >>
> >> (Sorry for the sarcasm, but this is not a nice way to deal with the
> >> situation).
> >
> >
> > Welcome to the club. Now wait for the free membership to the " You had
> > _years_ advanced notice." to come, it's on its way.
> >
> >
> > wolfy "I still have a few hundred remote desktops to upgrade ( and could
> > not do that due to remote access restrictions collateral to Covid moving
> > around restrictions )"
>
> We have been doing it this was for 17 years .. Literally since the
> inception of CentOS Linux. I have announced it several times and it has
> always been done exactly like this.  CentOS Linux 2.1, 3.x, 4.x and 5.x
> have all been done this way.
>
>
And the last global pandemic that shut everything down was 102 years ago,
but don't even think of doing anything different for the sake of your
users.

OK, fine.





> It is on vault.centos.org .. download a final copy to your own local
> mirror.
>
> All older versions are on vault.centos.org and have always been (same
> versions as mentioned above).
>
> We can not leave, in the production location, things that will never be
> updated and can have security issues.
>

You could for an extra month. Have a little flexibility given the
circumstances maybe?

I know you all won't change, and as I mentioned we're fine, but don't be
such hard asses all the time.




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Fin.


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