On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:26 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 7:25 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 7:22 AM Phil Perry <pperry at elrepo.org> wrote: > > > > > > On 02/02/2021 05:03, redbaronbrowser via CentOS-devel wrote: > > > > On Monday, February 1, 2021 4:57 PM, Neal Gompa <ngompa13 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> The other stuff is in Fedora under the Fedora CI banner. > > > > > > > > That is fine but the messaging of what, where, when and how of Stream has been extremely poor. I can't find a reference to that on the CentOS blog or FAQ. > > > > > > > > In fact, the Karsten Wade blog post was worded in a way that implied these tests were already being applied to Stream. > > > > > > > >> That will have much more of an impact when CentOS Stream 9 opens > > > >> in three months. > > > > > > > > Hopefully someone can walk me through this part. > > > > > > > > So, we have been told the life cycle of Stream is 5 years. > > > > > > > > Stream 8 was released September 24, 2019 so a period of 5 years should go at least to September 2024. > > > > > > > > We will have both a Stream 8 and a Stream 9 from May 2021 to September 2024? And then Stream 9 will continue to May 2026? > > > > > > > > > > I believe the 5 year starting point is from the release of RHEL 8 (e.g, > > > May 2019), not the release of Stream 8. i.e, Stream runs for the 5 year > > > Full Support period and ends when the underlying (downstream) product > > > enters it's Maintenance Support phase. > > > > > > https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata > > > > > > > Yes. That means the clock on CentOS Stream 9 starts when Red Hat > > Enterprise Linux 9 is GA (which would be in 2022). Thus, CentOS Stream > > 9 will be around for *six* years, not five. > > Or.... a small miracle could occur, the mis-step of discarding point > releases in favor of making all CentOS 8 users the beta users for > RHEL, and CentOS go back to publishing point releases that match RHEL > point releases. This is not going to happen. Doing that would be contrary to Red Hat's goals for investing in CentOS in the first place, as they've already said over and over. > That was precisely what happened the last time Red Hat > tried to discard point releases with "Red Hat 9" back in 2003. RHEL > came out a few years later with point releases, and CentOS was > developed to match. Uhh, that's not what happened...? Red Hat Linux was killed that year and split into two: Fedora Core and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Red Hat Linux != RHEL Red Hat Enterprise Linux made service packs (which CentOS called point releases) regularly with infrequent releases, but Fedora Core just made new releases regularly instead. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!