Le lundi 08 mars 2021 à 15:33 -0500, Matthew Miller a écrit : > On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 03:15:34PM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: > > I would be glad to hear their offering and how it compares to what > > RH OSPO is offering us. Financial considerations are, of course > > important, and if we're going to pay a different service, I am the > > one that holds the budget on that - but I have a lot of autonomy on > > spending that for the benefit of the project community. > > > For what it's worth, over in Fedora we also 1) would love to use open > source > for everything and 2) chose to use HopIn for some of our virtual > events. > Our conferences are important to us, but we're not in the conference > business, and we don't require conference hotels to run their systems > all on > open source in order to have an in-person event. > > Bandwidth is definitely a big concern, but another one is the backend > event- > organizer-oriented stuff. Some of the open source approaches I've > seen are > basically "scheduled video calls with chat" whereas HopIn has a lot > of tools > and backend stuff designed to make life easier for the people running > the > event, which is crucial when it's only a handful of volunteers (and > even > people paid to work on it don't have the event as their full-time > job). There is also the question of latency, eg, not too bad for various part of the world, especially for discussion. There is the question of rooms and moderations, which was not great on Jitsi. It was not made for that, and while people can make it work, there is so much more for a good experience (like, having a proper concept for rooms, etc). The diagram of the architecture for FOSDEM was a bit scary, and I understand why they had to do that, but the video team is surely bigger than the number of people discussing here on the topic at the moment. And there is the question of support. I would have been able to spin a BBB instance without too much problem (just close my eyes at the fact this requires a older version of Ubuntu...), but with 2 sysadmins in RH OSPO, we already can't cover all the project we want to help (around a dozen), and we can't really be on-call for all events (for ressources reasons, and for legal reasons, weekend and night work is heavily regulated in my country) . > There may be options out there I'm not aware of that have more, but > when evaluating don't forget to keep this in mind when looking at > capabilities. I heard good things about Big Blue Button, used by AFPy, the french python association, for meetups ( https://bbb.afpy.org/ ), or by a bunch of french indies hosters (see the CHATONS collective website). Or in fact, by GNOME: https://meet.gnome.org/ The AFPy pay around 20€ par month (Start-2-M-SSD at Online.net, and I looked, 80$ if hosted by Digital Ocean in the US for a equivalent 16G server). For that price, the server had no problem with 50 connections (which was the biggest meetup so far) My partner also told me about paid hosting, used at their work, like https://www.octopuce.fr/visioconference-un-service-innovant-securise-et-libre/ Some people told that it can go to up to 100 people, and after, you need to start to load balance, with that article on Amazon: https://aws.amazon.com/fr/blogs/opensource/how-to-build-a-scalable-bigbluebutton-video-conference-solution-on-aws/ But it start to be pricy I guess. -- Michael Scherer / He/Il/Er/Él Sysadmin, Community Infrastructure -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/attachments/20210310/eef99cfd/attachment-0005.sig>