Am 10.03.21 um 18:25 schrieb Michael Scherer: > Le lundi 08 mars 2021 à 15:33 -0500, Matthew Miller a écrit : >> On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 03:15:34PM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote: >>> I would be glad to hear their offering and how it compares to what >>> RH OSPO is offering us. Financial considerations are, of course >>> important, and if we're going to pay a different service, I am the >>> one that holds the budget on that - but I have a lot of autonomy on >>> spending that for the benefit of the project community. >> >> >> For what it's worth, over in Fedora we also 1) would love to use open >> source >> for everything and 2) chose to use HopIn for some of our virtual >> events. >> Our conferences are important to us, but we're not in the conference >> business, and we don't require conference hotels to run their systems >> all on >> open source in order to have an in-person event. >> >> Bandwidth is definitely a big concern, but another one is the backend >> event- >> organizer-oriented stuff. Some of the open source approaches I've >> seen are >> basically "scheduled video calls with chat" whereas HopIn has a lot >> of tools >> and backend stuff designed to make life easier for the people running >> the >> event, which is crucial when it's only a handful of volunteers (and >> even >> people paid to work on it don't have the event as their full-time >> job). > > There is also the question of latency, eg, not too bad for various part > of the world, especially for discussion. > > There is the question of rooms and moderations, which was not great on > Jitsi. It was not made for that, and while people can make it work, > there is so much more for a good experience (like, having a proper > concept for rooms, etc). The diagram of the architecture for FOSDEM was > a bit scary, and I understand why they had to do that, but the video > team is surely bigger than the number of people discussing here on the > topic at the moment. > > > And there is the question of support. I would have been able to spin a > BBB instance without too much problem (just close my eyes at the fact > this requires a older version of Ubuntu...), but with 2 sysadmins in RH > OSPO, we already can't cover all the project we want to help (around a > dozen), and we can't really be on-call for all events (for ressources > reasons, and for legal reasons, weekend and night work is heavily > regulated in my country) . > >> There may be options out there I'm not aware of that have more, but >> when evaluating don't forget to keep this in mind when looking at >> capabilities. > > I heard good things about Big Blue Button, used by AFPy, the french > python association, for meetups ( https://bbb.afpy.org/ ), or by a > bunch of french indies hosters (see the CHATONS collective website). Or > in fact, by GNOME: > https://meet.gnome.org/ > > The AFPy pay around 20€ par month (Start-2-M-SSD at Online.net, and I > looked, 80$ if hosted by Digital Ocean in the US for a equivalent 16G > server). For that price, the server had no problem with 50 connections > (which was the biggest meetup so far) > > My partner also told me about paid hosting, used at their work, like > https://www.octopuce.fr/visioconference-un-service-innovant-securise-et-libre/ > > > > Some people told that it can go to up to 100 people, and after, you > need to start to load balance, with that article on Amazon: > https://aws.amazon.com/fr/blogs/opensource/how-to-build-a-scalable-bigbluebutton-video-conference-solution-on-aws/ > > But it start to be pricy I guess. > > > Because of limitations of BBB I came today across this one (not tested): https://www.wonder.me/ -- Leon