On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 8:07 AM Fabian Arrotin <arrfab at centos.org> wrote: > > On 13/05/2023 12:42, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 4:02 AM Fabian Arrotin <arrfab at centos.org> wrote: > >> > >> On 11/05/2023 21:38, Shaun McCance wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2023-05-11 at 10:27 -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > >>>> so I think the possible options are: > >>>> > >>>> Option 1: move to EL-8 mailman2 til next June.. then punt to 2,3,4 > >>>> Option 2: volunteer and do the work to make mailman3 work (this needs > >>>> packaging, webwork, database work, importing of old archives, > >>>> resubscribing n people, etc). > >>>> Option 2b: volunteer and use a different supportable mailing list > >>>> software (this needs...) > >>>> Option 3: discontinue email lists and have Fedora discourse run threads. > >>>> Option 4: move the mailing lists to another organization and let them > >>>> manage the email (this needs ...) > >>> > >>> Not necessarily advocating, but I'm going to add: > >>> > >>> Option 3b: discontinue email lists and have a dedicated CentOS Discourse. > >>> > >> > >> <personal opinion> I don't like Discourse, it's not a mailing-list and > >> you can't read threads from a mail client, which lot of people, > >> including me, are used to ... > >> </personal opinion> > >> > >> If discontinuing the email lists is a CentOS board choice, maybe it's > >> better to not reinvent the wheel and "merge" it with Fedora instance > >> (with sub-categories, threads, $whatever) ? > >> That way, Fedora folks managing one instance don't have to manage > >> another one ? > >> > >> Just me two cents :-) > >> > > > > Fedora's Discourse is run by Civilized Discourse Construction Kit (the > > developers of Discourse), not Fedora. > > > > Getting a CentOS Discourse instance would not add any load for anyone, > > since nobody in Fedora/CentOS would be "maintaining" it as CDCK would > > be contracted to run it too. > > I was more thinking about the "moderators" than the infra itself (as > it's hosted, as you mentioned it) ;-) > > > > > I'd rather keep mailing lists for development myself. For that, I > > would suggest moving them to Fedora's instance and leveraging the > > multi-domain feature so that lists.centos.org goes to Fedora's > > instance. > > Well, I heard that Fedora-devel itself will move to discourse .. ? > So my understanding is that it would be end of mailing lists, for both > Fedora and CentOS ? > That is not a surefire thing. Fedora will be testing the Changes process discussion on Discourse for Fedora 40, but nothing is changing beyond that. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!