[CentOS-devel] Feedback on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 plans

Wed Jan 10 16:16:22 UTC 2024
Michel Lind <salimma at centosproject.org>

On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 01:05:51PM -0500, Fred wrote:
> unless I misunderstand something (which is entirely possible), the Suse
> "solution" is only a partial solution... they will compile shared objects
> for each of the instruction set possibilities and load the one that is
> applicable on the current machine.
> 
> but doesn't that mean that all the base apps need to be compiled for the
> lowest common denominator? In the examples people (in this thread) are
> worrying about, that would be "v2".
> 
In case of Fedora, anyway, the idea is to compile multiple times for
apps that would benefit from this - for the baseline and for any higher
compilation targets.

Best,

Michel

> Fred
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 7:45 AM aleksander.baranowski via CentOS-devel <
> centos-devel at centos.org> wrote:
> 
> > As far as the idea (glibc-hwcaps) is concerned, both are pretty much the
> > same.
> >
> > I think
> >
> > https://gitlab.com/x86-psABIs/x86-64-ABI/-/jobs/artifacts/master/raw/x86-64-ABI/abi.pdf?job=build
> > is a good read. It's fresh and it might be appropriate to read it first
> > before entering the deeper discussion.
> >
> > If Fedora manages to maintain baselines, the downstream might follow
> > (CentOS Stream, RHEL 10). I don't think it will be mainstream the other
> > way around. Also if production started it might be hard to push such a
> > huge change ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
> >
> > Best,
> > Alex
> >
> > On 1/8/24 12:49, František Šumšal wrote:
> > > On 1/8/24 12:46, Trevor Hemsley via CentOS-devel wrote:
> > >> I do think the SuSE method of dealing with this is significantly
> > >> better and I wish RH would adopt it rather than just deprecating
> > >> otherwise working hardware:
> > >>
> > >> https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/09/opensuse_finds_x86_64_solution/
> > >
> > > FWIW Fedora is currently considering this as well:
> > >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Optimized_Binaries_for_the_AMD64_Architecture
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