[CentOS-docs] CentOS wiki/web changes

Wed Sep 17 14:25:51 UTC 2008
Dag Wieers <dag at centos.org>

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote:

> Dag Wieers wrote:
>> >  Whats the aim of creating duplicate content and thereby creating more 
>> >  legacy ?
>>  The aim would be that more people could actually improve the content,
>>  instead of having it sit there, look ugly and not helping with donations
>>  at all.
> If there is such a mass of humanity looking to improve the content, why is 
> that effort not directed at fixing the issues with the website ?

How would John Doe be able to help with the website ? They can readily 
help with the wiki today.

>>  If you want me to say we should replace the Website by the Wiki, I will :)
> you can say that if you like, but its not going to happen.


>>  Sorry, but every link from the wiki going to the website is but-ugly,
>>  looks disconnected and unprofessional.
> so why band-aid rather than fix the problem ?

Why is the wiki a band-aid. A lot of projects only use a wiki and are very 
successful in doing so.

>>  Right, and the website obviously is much better in providing content to
>>  users (not).
> the website gets a magnitude of more traffic than the wiki, so I'd say yes 
> its a better mechanism at the moment.

The website gets more traffic because it is called http://centos.org/ and 
is linked everywhere, not because the content is able to deliver.

I am confident that a news-item on the wiki has more effect, than having 
the same news-item on the website given they would both be called 

But that is not the point, the point is that there is nothing wrong with 
having news-items on the wiki, just like on the website, or the 
mailinglist, or planet centos for that matter.

It does not have to be either-or.

>>  Sorry Karanbir, we could argue about the principles of having a website
>>  and a wiki, but as long as the website is in the state it is now I would
>>  *never* recommend anyone to go to the website.
> but you dont want to make any efforts to fix that situation ?

No, and apparently others don't want to either.
So I guess the official position is to wait until someone does it.

>>  Right, we could discuss what news-item to put on the frontpage, but I
>>  think it is important to also put highlights on the wiki simply because
>>  nobody ever visits both.
> I'd like to see what analytics were used in reaching that decision.

I never visit the website, and I doubt many people return to the website 
if they know about the wiki.

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