On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 19:40 -0400, Brian Mathis wrote: > > The use of "mv -v ...{,_}" is too clever for this kind of educational > document, and should be changed to spell out the full "mv" command. I > get what you're doing there, but the purpose of the document is not to > teach clever uses of bash, it's to make it obvious to people that > you're renaming the file. It will trip up the flow of reading for all > but the most knowledgeable users, and users who don't understand it > will be totally lost. I'm not trying to be clever, I just don't like to type it twice if I can avoid it and the typing the higher the chance for a typo. I don't have a problem having both forms. I'll add it and see what you think. > In most documents and scripts, I usually spell out the short form > options as well, such as using "--verbose". Short forms save you > typing, but documentation should not trip people up if they don't know > what the option means. Normally, I expect, if people don't understand a command, they will refer to the man page for the command. However, to my constant disappointment, I understand that many people aren't looking for long term knowledge improvement, they are looking for a recipe to blindly follow. > Also, I find the use of "_" to be obtuse and highly error prone if one > were to actually run a server that way. It's far more obvious to use > "disabled", which makes it very clear that those items are disabled. > It may work for you but only because that's a convention you came up > with so you're used to it, but we're not in dos 8.3 days with > filenames, so why not be more descriptive? Having both forms should make it plain that people can use any convention they wish. System administration is not a fixed target. Like many things, there are many ways to accomplish the same result. When approaching a system that someone else is administrating, we should try to maintain the existing conventions instead of forcing our own ideas onto a server for which we are not the primary responsible party. > In section 6.4, is there a reason not to make a "vhosts.conf" file > that contains the "Include" in the in the conf.d/ directory, instead > of appending to the httpd.conf, or do you run into ordering issues > there? I try to avoid changing the distro files if possible. Sections 6 and 7 are optional. There are certainly arguments against customization. In the past, upgrades might have replaced all files including configuration files. In that case, creating a vhosts.conf file in the conf.d directory to separate the directive would have been a must. However, the Linux distributions I have used for the past decade or so have avoided replacing existing configuration files, expecting they might be customized. That said, I like the suggestion. It would allow for the virtual host files to be packaged into an RPM file that could be installed on multiple web hosts. > > ❧ Brian Mathis