[CentOS-docs] Installing CentOS - user feedback

Thibaut Perrin

thibaut.perrin at gmail.com
Mon Aug 17 20:19:43 UTC 2020


Hi Rich,

Just for 1), when you choose the distro you want, written in white on blue
on top of that you have a phrasing that describes (agreed, it could be
better positioned, but it's there) :
CentOS Linux
=> Consistent, manageable platform that suits a wide variety of
deployments. For some open source communities, it is a solid, predictable
base to build upon.

CentOS Stream
=> Rolling-release distro that tracks just ahead of Red Hat Enterprise
Linux (RHEL) development, positioned as a midstream between Fedora Linux
and RHEL. For anyone interested in participating and collaborating in the
RHEL ecosystem, CentOS Stream is your reliable platform for innovation.

I agree on the missing points, and also the "Documentation" page includes
doc for 7 & 8, even if you're on the 6.10 choice. Which means there's not
even documentation links for 6 while it's still possible to download it ?

On the other points, once you choose x86_64, there should be more guidance
on the mirror page I'd say. You'll find the following ISO files, here is a
list of which you'll find and what usage.
Maybe the mirror parent page could include a readme or a redirect to the
ISO page as well for that matter ?

I think the fewest places the info is stored, the less likely we'll forget
an update when there is one.

Thanks,


On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:04 PM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> wrote:

> A few days ago I got email from a user who was attempting to install
> CentOS. I've included their full message below, but, to summarize, when
> one clicks on the "CentOS Linux" link on the front page of centos.org
> one is given a matrix of choices, and no guidance. On choosing one
> option - say, x84_64 ISO, one is then given another list of options and
> no guidance. Pick one of *those* options and you are yet again given a
> list of options and no guidance.
>
> Now, it could be argued that someone who doesn't know what to choose is
> not our target audience, and I suppose that would be an ok position to
> hold. But wouldn't it be great to lower the bar just a little, and offer
> some guidance as to which links one should click?
>
> I'd like to see several things:
>
> 1) On the front page, where it says "We offer two Linux distros:", there
> would be at least some hint of what this choice entails
>
> 2) On the download page - https://www.centos.org/centos-linux/ - a
> little explanation of what the various options there are.
>
> So far, this is all just edits to centos.org. The next two steps involve
> pushing changes to the mirror network, and I honestly have no idea what
> is involved there.
>
> 3) Adding phrasing to
> http://isoredirect.centos.org/centos/8/isos/x86_64/ that indicates what
> that inscrutable list of links means.
>
> and finally, possibly not even possible:
>
> 4) Add words to http://centos4.zswap.net/8.2.2004/isos/x86_64/ (as a
> random example) that say what the various options mean. This is probably
> not possible, since these are just autoindex generated pages. We could,
> however, offer Apache httpd and nginx configuration recommendations
> which will provide that additional information for sites that chose to
> follow the instructions.
>
> And, really, #1 and #2 are the most important here.
>
> The full message follows:
>
>  >>
> I stumbled on your address on a Centos Faq page. I hope you can give me
> some sort of answer.
> I have been searching for a way to ask a question, but have not located
> a forum. As I am fairly new to Linux generally, I am exploring
> varieties, and Centos surfaced as an interesting option. But, again, I
> have a problem no one else considers worthy of asking or answering: how
> do I choose? Apparently the user in the download directory is supposed
> to know what they are looking for.
> When I followed the link to "download CentOs", I chose a link with
> ".iso" on it. This opened another page, so I picked another likely
> candidate. I went four or five branches deep before I gave up. I have no
> idea why I would want one branch or the other. Should I just leave
> CentOs to the experts?
> I really wish that on the home page there was a specification for "user
> level". Do developers assume that the user is expert, and that someone
> who is not qualified will get exhausted and go away? It seems very
> unkind to make that assumption and not say so. If I am not the intended
> user, please tell me! Otherwise, could someone please explain how to
> choose which version of CentOs to use?
> If you could forward this letter to someone who can take the time to
> answer my question, I will be grateful.
> <<
>
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