[CentOS-promo] Timing: Re: CentOS Stream 9 "launch" promotion

Mon Nov 22 16:25:33 UTC 2021
Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com>

Ok, that's fine. I'd *really* like to get it out before the December 8th 
date if at all possible.

On 11/18/21 20:18, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-11-18 at 10:56 -0600, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> So ... Y'all think there's any chance we can push this out next week?
> Rich, wrt new logo design, I am afraid we are not ready yet.  While
> making some implementation tests in CentOS Stream 9, I recently
> observed two problems:
> 1. The symbol image in the new logo doesn't provide an acceptable level
> of contrast in all the use-cases the distribution demands. For example,
> if we use dark lines, it is not visible on dark backgrounds. If we use
> light lines, it is not visible on light backgrounds. If we use neutral
> color lines, it doesn't look good in any case.
> 2. The symbol image is poorly recognizable in small sizes (e.g., 16x16
> pixels) as we see in Gnome Desktop, near Activities, and on the web
> browser tab icon. The icon near Activities is probably the most
> important image we have to identify the CentOS Project inside the
> CentOS distribution because it is always visible. More than any other
> image is.
> These problems will be described soon with visual evidence
> in https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issues, looking for community
> support and proposals. These are really challenging problems (at least
> for me). My guess is that we will need another open design round to
> solve them and the result will be visually different from what we have
> now. Some points to address/think on:
> - Recognition: It is probably necessary to simplify the symbol design
> even more. It has too many lines, and when they are reduced, the symbol
> starts to loose its meaning.
> - Contrast: It is probably necessary to introduce a neutral plain color
> to provide a fixed background that serves as stable base to express the
> CentOS Symbol meaning on top of it. So, the CentOS Symbol looks always
> the same on top of different color saturation. This has been already
> proposed and rejected by me without any implementation test in the
> distribution. The implementation tests threw that using only lines
> doesn't provide a good visual presentation inside the distribution,
> specially on icons reduced in size.
> - Meaning: Whatever the solution for these problems be, it should
> preserve the CentOS Symbol meaning without affecting its presentation
> when the symbol is reduced to 16x16 pixels. The CentOS Symbol meaning
> must be clearly expressed on that size. It must shine on that size!
> Considering the problems mentioned earlier and the timelines, I would
> propose to prepare the CentOS Stream 9 launch using the historical
> CentOS Symbol, until we find a solution. Note, that the historical
> CentOS Symbol suffers these problems as well, but it is more
> recognizable than the new one. I prefer to introduce the new symbol to
> CentOS distribution when it does provide a benefit. As consequence, and
> to be consistent through all visual manifestations, the historical
> CentOS Symbol should be preserved on websites and promotion materials.
> Don't know if such thing is possible considering the intention and
> immediate need of having the new brand active. I hope we can "as soon
> as we are ready to do so" [1]
> [1] https://git.centos.org/centos/board/issue/4#comment-483
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