[CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

Grant McWilliams grantmasterflash at gmail.com
Tue Nov 10 13:01:46 UTC 2009

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:36 AM, carlopmart <carlopmart at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote:
> >> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote:
> >>>> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon
> ... It will be
> >>>>>> integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V ....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Uhm.. I don't believe this. Where did you read that?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Citrix XenServer was opensourced last week, or the hypervisor+tools
> >>>>> part, the xencenter management interface remains closed source (but
> it
> >>>>> can also manage hyper-v).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> IMHO, it isn't a good option to maintain domO virt servers based on
> CentOS or RHEL
> >>>>>> now ... It is the time to migrate to another solutions ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> RHEL5, with Xen, will be fully supported by Redhat until 2014. They
> have
> >>>>> clearly stated that many times.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Pasi
> >>>> Ok, I think I haven't explained well, sorry. Citrix Xenserver's
> hypervisor and tools
> >>>> was donated by Citrix last week, correct. But Citrix didn't release
> more versions of
> >>>> the product because it does not intend to develop it and apply new
> features. Citrix
> >>>> virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management and
> Desktop
> >>>> virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second VMware.
> >>>>
> >>> Where did you read this? You write it like it's a fact - I haven't seen
> >>> that anywhere.. ??
> >> This will be announced over next weeks ...
> >>
> >
> > Again, are you speculating, or is this a fact? I think Citrix XenServer
> 5.7
> > will be released soon :)
> Ok, stay and wait. But I repeat: Citrix will focused his efforts only on
> Management
> and Desktop virtualization, not on servers. First past it is do it: donate
> xenserver
> to opesource community.
If this is true it will not only be the death of Xen but of Citrix as well.
I don't see a company surviving that only makes a gui to manage someone
else's VM solution. I think Microsoft is capable of making their own GUI.

I do think that we should probably just give up on getting xen in the kernel
for Dom0. It's clear that the kernel guys will never let this happen. Xen
may very well become a distribution providing a Dom0. The DomU stuff is
already in the kernel so a very light distribution that only provides
networking tools, security tools and the Dom0 code would be fine for those
who want to continue using Xen. I've not been convinced that KVM is quite
ready to do what Xen does. I use it but not for production.

Grant McWilliams

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