I concur with Pasi. Please substantiate claims of fact with links. Otherwise it is relegated to my phantom fact & rumor mongering folders, which is where this conversation is heading. Pasi asked several times for substantiation and I see he requests have been completely ignored or sidestepped. If there is some factual basis to below please supply: A) "Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V ...." [Which seems to be awkward since the other way around would be better (Hyper-V off of XenServer).] and the basis of: B) "Citrix virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management and Desktop virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second VMware." Repeating (unsubstantiated statements over and over does not make them more true or helpful for the list members to stay informed, it is only a social engineering tool not an answer. Do you have some links to these statements? Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:36:32PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: >> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: >>>> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: >>>>>> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be >>>>>>>> integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V .... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Uhm.. I don't believe this. Where did you read that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Citrix XenServer was opensourced last week, or the hypervisor+tools >>>>>>> part, the xencenter management interface remains closed source (but it >>>>>>> can also manage hyper-v). >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMHO, it isn't a good option to maintain domO virt servers based on CentOS or RHEL >>>>>>>> now ... It is the time to migrate to another solutions ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> RHEL5, with Xen, will be fully supported by Redhat until 2014. They have >>>>>>> clearly stated that many times. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Pasi >>>>>> Ok, I think I haven't explained well, sorry. Citrix Xenserver's hypervisor and tools >>>>>> was donated by Citrix last week, correct. But Citrix didn't release more versions of >>>>>> the product because it does not intend to develop it and apply new features. Citrix >>>>>> virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management and Desktop >>>>>> virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second VMware. >>>>>> >>>>> Where did you read this? You write it like it's a fact - I haven't seen >>>>> that anywhere.. ?? >>>> This will be announced over next weeks ... >>>> >>> Again, are you speculating, or is this a fact? I think Citrix XenServer 5.7 >>> will be released soon :) >> Ok, stay and wait. But I repeat: Citrix will focused his efforts only on Management >> and Desktop virtualization, not on servers. First past it is do it: donate xenserver >> to opesource community. >> > > http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/02/simon-crosby-explains-citrixs-open-source-xenserver-move/ > > Simon Crosby is the CTO of Citrix/Xensource. > > Interview here: > http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci1372894,00.html?asrc=SS_CLA_failover&psrc=CLT_94 > > Direct MP3 download link of the interview: > http://ehg-techtarget.hitbox.com/redirector.mp3?hb=DM560429E9VV83EN3;DM5212204PCA83EN3&cv.c4=DL|PODCAST_twiv1030.mp3&cd=1&n=/podcast=&vcon=/searchServerVirtualization/podcasts&hec=0&vjs=HBX0200u&fn=http://media.techtarget.com/audioCast/DATA_CENTER/twiv1030.mp3&target=http://media.techtarget.com/audioCast/DATA_CENTER/twiv1030.mp3 > > Quote from the interview (hopefully I got all the words correctly): > > "Q: Citrix already gives away XenServer for free, so how do you plan > to make money in the market, and how would you respond to those who > say that by making XenServer free and now mostly opensource, > Citrix is basicly conceding the server virtualization market to VMware and > Microsoft." > > "A: Yeah, Anything but giving it away. > "A: Last quarter we added 25 000 customers" > > Just listen to the interview yourself. > > >>> RHEL5 will be transferred to 'maintenance' mode after a while.. the >>> feature that are there now will be there in the future aswell. >>> >>> Btw. the earlier list of options didn't list Novell SLES11.. it has >>> pretty good implementation of Xen aswell (Xen 3.4.1 + 2.6.27 dom0 kernel). >>> >>> -- Pasi >> I have a serious doubts about Novell and Oracle will do about Xen. We need to wait ... >> > > Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both > are developing and supporting their own products based on Xen. > > -- Pasi > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-virt mailing list > CentOS-virt at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt >