On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:36:17AM -0500, Ben M. wrote: > I concur with Pasi. Please substantiate claims of fact with links. > Otherwise it is relegated to my phantom fact & rumor mongering folders, > which is where this conversation is heading. Pasi asked several times > for substantiation and I see he requests have been completely ignored or > sidestepped. > > If there is some factual basis to below please supply: > > > A) "Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon > ... It will be integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V ...." > > [Which seems to be awkward since the other way around would be better > (Hyper-V off of XenServer).] > > and the basis of: > > B) "Citrix virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management > and Desktop virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second > VMware." > > Repeating (unsubstantiated statements over and over does not make them > more true or helpful for the list members to stay informed, it is only a > social engineering tool not an answer. Do you have some links to these > statements? > Indeed. In that interview (that I linked) Simon clearly says they're continuing in the server virtualization market, and growing fast. Citrix has doubled XenServer/XenCenter customers from Q1. Also he says the next version of XenServer is coming in the beginning of 2010. -- Pasi > > > Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:36:32PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: > >> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > >>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: > >>>> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: > >>>>>> Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be > >>>>>>>> integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V .... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Uhm.. I don't believe this. Where did you read that? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Citrix XenServer was opensourced last week, or the hypervisor+tools > >>>>>>> part, the xencenter management interface remains closed source (but it > >>>>>>> can also manage hyper-v). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> IMHO, it isn't a good option to maintain domO virt servers based on CentOS or RHEL > >>>>>>>> now ... It is the time to migrate to another solutions ... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RHEL5, with Xen, will be fully supported by Redhat until 2014. They have > >>>>>>> clearly stated that many times. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- Pasi > >>>>>> Ok, I think I haven't explained well, sorry. Citrix Xenserver's hypervisor and tools > >>>>>> was donated by Citrix last week, correct. But Citrix didn't release more versions of > >>>>>> the product because it does not intend to develop it and apply new features. Citrix > >>>>>> virtualization bussiness will be focused only on Management and Desktop > >>>>>> virtualization using Hper-V as a first platform and second VMware. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Where did you read this? You write it like it's a fact - I haven't seen > >>>>> that anywhere.. ?? > >>>> This will be announced over next weeks ... > >>>> > >>> Again, are you speculating, or is this a fact? I think Citrix XenServer 5.7 > >>> will be released soon :) > >> Ok, stay and wait. But I repeat: Citrix will focused his efforts only on Management > >> and Desktop virtualization, not on servers. First past it is do it: donate xenserver > >> to opesource community. > >> > > > > http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/11/02/simon-crosby-explains-citrixs-open-source-xenserver-move/ > > > > Simon Crosby is the CTO of Citrix/Xensource. > > > > Interview here: > > http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/generic/0,295582,sid94_gci1372894,00.html?asrc=SS_CLA_failover&psrc=CLT_94 > > > > Direct MP3 download link of the interview: > > http://ehg-techtarget.hitbox.com/redirector.mp3?hb=DM560429E9VV83EN3;DM5212204PCA83EN3&cv.c4=DL|PODCAST_twiv1030.mp3&cd=1&n=/podcast=&vcon=/searchServerVirtualization/podcasts&hec=0&vjs=HBX0200u&fn=http://media.techtarget.com/audioCast/DATA_CENTER/twiv1030.mp3&target=http://media.techtarget.com/audioCast/DATA_CENTER/twiv1030.mp3 > > > > Quote from the interview (hopefully I got all the words correctly): > > > > "Q: Citrix already gives away XenServer for free, so how do you plan > > to make money in the market, and how would you respond to those who > > say that by making XenServer free and now mostly opensource, > > Citrix is basicly conceding the server virtualization market to VMware and > > Microsoft." > > > > "A: Yeah, Anything but giving it away. > > "A: Last quarter we added 25 000 customers" > > > > Just listen to the interview yourself. > > > > > >>> RHEL5 will be transferred to 'maintenance' mode after a while.. the > >>> feature that are there now will be there in the future aswell. > >>> > >>> Btw. the earlier list of options didn't list Novell SLES11.. it has > >>> pretty good implementation of Xen aswell (Xen 3.4.1 + 2.6.27 dom0 kernel). > >>> > >>> -- Pasi > >> I have a serious doubts about Novell and Oracle will do about Xen. We need to wait ... > >> > > > > Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both > > are developing and supporting their own products based on Xen. > > > > -- Pasi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS-virt mailing list > > CentOS-virt at centos.org > > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS-virt mailing list > CentOS-virt at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt