thanks Bryan, Kirk, and Shawn and others that may reply... what i wonder is this, when will we know about this next run of stability issues with the 9500S series and the "next" (meaning after current one) engineering beta firmware release etc? errrrr ;-> , how long till we know it's stable and that **another** "GOOD bugfix" is in the pipe? thanks - rh -- Robert Hanson Abba Communications http://www.abbacomm.net