On Thursday 28 July 2005 00:44, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > What drive? What disc format? What program created them? If you > haven't guessed, longterm DVD "reliability" is a technical interest of > mine. Why? Because I've been using DVD as a backup for Linux since > early 1998 -- yes, _1998_, on Linux! > > (and no, the drive didn't cost me $10,000, it was $500, brand freak'n > new, list price) *sighs* BS level exceeded... * The first DVD-R drives under $1000 did not appear until 2001. * The list price in 1998 was $17000 for the only available drive by pioneer. * DVD-R(G) was not even available until 1999 - so if you had a DVD-R(A) drive, then the media are not comparable to what is out now, and all your BS has no relevance about current media. * Linux DVD writing software did not appear until way after 1998 (growisofs, cdrecord patches, ...) so what software were you using? Of course I could be wrong. If so, please tell me: * What model of drive did you own? * What software you used to write to it. * Where you were even able to get your hands on a drive in early 1998 at that price. > 9 times out of 10, when someone else is supposedly "sticking up for > newbies, grannies, etc..." someone already has an agenda with me, and > it's just the excuse. And then the so-called newbie _really_ gets to > see what Linux is all about (bickering, right? NOT!). Psychologically a very good idea to post that... Discount other's opinions before they even stated them... Too bad its wrong in this case. Most people that get into a long drawn out argument with you on this list do it because you're clearly wrong and as technical people, we just don't like incorrect statements. Peter.