-> > -> > telnet nameserveripaddress 53 -> -> No go, since most DNS servers will block TCP based queries for -> everything except their secondaries. -> -> Standard DNS queries use UDP. -> I hear you... Yeah I usually just use it to see if something answers so to speak, or to see if a firewall or something knocks it down and refuses to allow "connect" in general. It helped in the OLD OLD days when I started in the early to mid 1990's more so than now except telnetting to various tcp ports and stepping through tests etc - rh -- Robert - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net