Eduardo Silvestre wrote: > howdy, > > did you tried lshw? > > have you? this package, available in rpmforge, shows considerably less than hal-device did, albeit in a somewhat cleaner output format... .. neither hal-device or lshw showed the serial of the optical devices on the 3 different random servers I tried them on. lshw doesn't even show the serial on SCSI hard disk drives, which is available from several sources on the same machine.