On Sunday 06 July 2008 17:26:05 Scott Silva wrote: > That is one of the biggest of my beefs about windows. It allows any > computer noob to shoot themselves in the foot very easily. That can be a > plus or a negative. The biggest negative is that there are now millions of > computers on the internet that have run out on their free 2 months of virus > scanner updates, and are now owned by someones bot network, while the > clueless user keeps plugging along wondering why the darn machine is so > slow. > I guess the positive is that it is easy for Grandma and Grandpa on the > other side of the country to get pics of the grandkids. > > I just wish that PC manufacturers would just contract with one of the free > virus scanner companies like Grisoft, instead of putting in Norton with a > 60 day cripple point. Most users will just ignore the update message until > it stops because they don't know it is really necessary software. A free > virus scanner with updates will beat a heave commercial soft with no > updates anytime. I fail to see what any of this has to do with my question. As it happens she is not a computer newbie and she has had an AV contract since the Win3.1 days. However, that's totally irrelevant. She simply hadn't realised just how big a pdf with two large graphics and embedded fonts would be. Anne