On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Ruslan Sivak <russ at vshift.com> wrote: > Luke S Crawford wrote: > >> russ at vshift.com writes: >> >> >>> If you only have 512mb of ram, there's almost no reason to virtualize. >>> Windows needs a minimum of 128-512MB to run stable. I highly suggest that >>> you get more RAM - its very cheap these days. >>> >> >> seconded. my standard server has 8G unbuffered ecc. Newegg sells 2x2Gb >> packs of unbuffered ECC kingston brand ddr2 for under $100. >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134312 >> >> No reason, really, to not fill your motherboard with ram. >> >> >>> If you want to dedicate a box to virtualization, and won't be using more >>> then 4GB of ram for your virtual machines - I highly recommend xenserver >>> express. Its free, but has much better performance then vmware. >>> >> >> the free (closed) xensource product is good... I also wanted to point out >> the new gpl windows pv drivers: >> >> http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenWindowsGplPv/ >> >> you could use them with the standard open-source Xen, or even with the Xen >> support distributed with CentOS 5, and avoid the ram limits all together. >> (well, there is a limit to the open-source xen, but it's ridiculous; most >> of us won't hit it for several years, at least.) >> still kinda beta, but something to watch. >> >> >> > > Yea, I've been playing around with this. The performance seems on par with > the XenSource drivers, but like you said, it's pretty beta. James has been > great in fixing the bugs, but it's just not ready for production use right > now. Without using the GPLPV drivers, Xen is not ready for production use, > the IO throughput sucks, and there is no graceful shutdown. > If XenServer Express would only allow for 8GB, it would be perfect. The > administrative interface is really polished and fully featured (except > things like migrations, which understandably come with the enterprise > version). > Once the GPLPV drivers mature a little bin and someone makes some decent > admin tools for Xen, Xen will be ready for the enterprise. I bet a company > can make good money just developing and selling the admin tools for Xen. > > Russ > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > *Perhaps you could be interested in this project: * I discovered three major issues in the usage scenarios of OpenVZ in the enterprise market: 1. Installation takes time and needs Linux knowledge 2. The missing GUI management 3. And the inability to run unmodified guests like Windows on an OpenVZ host I also had other wishes like integrated backup and restore, live-migration, central configuration management and integrated virtual appliances download. So I presented this last year to our development team – a few months later, we proudly presents the first release of our *Proxmox Virtual Environment<http://pve.proxmox.com/> .* Now we have the virtualization platform for the enterprise, licensed under GNU GPLv2. Proxmox VE is the *only *virtualization platform which can do all of the following on one physical host: - Container Virtualization (OpenVZ) - Full virtualization (KVM) - Para-virtualization (KVM) We encourage everybody to test Proxmox VE and give feedback, for download and documentation please visit the *Proxmox VE Wiki </>.* Feel free to get in contact with me directly - martin at proxmox.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20080612/7369d6ce/attachment-0004.html>