>use ntbackup on the windows machine to create .bkp file, then copy that >to the DR backup with scp or rsync or whatever. I looked at that initially, but the incremental was huge for some reason and the bandwidth needed over the link was more than we could provision for. File by file would actually work, rsyncing only what we need to. I don't know this was but that's how it played out in testing. This is definitely being a PITA for me but I am not being given enough cash to do this easily. Sigh... Roberts suggestion about using tar interests me, but I just read gnu tar wont do what I need, but Schily tar will. Not sure of there is a windows port. Thanks for all the suggestions guys! jlc