On Mon, July 19, 2010 13:39, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > David Dyer-Bennet wrote: >> >> On Mon, July 19, 2010 09:09, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >>> Jay Leafey wrote: >> >>>> As far as the security of my home network goes, I get a giggle every >>>> time I scan for wireless networks at home. Mine is the ONLY network >>>> that I can reach that is encrypted. >>> >>> Please - I've enabled WPA, whatever I can, on my ladyfriend's FIOS, and >>> my own DSL, and push everyone else. It boggles my mind when I look for >>> wireless networks in a residential neighborhood, and see so many that >>> are just *open*. >> >> On the other hand, Bruce Schneier does not really agree with you >> <http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/my_open_wireles.html>. > > Yeah, well, I'll talk to Bruce, next time he shows up at a con I'm at. > I've *had* my IP blocked, and that was by, what, DNSORBS, or what was his > name's thing, and what got blocked was the range of my ISP's range for the > city. I also *do* worry about someone I know sending out crap having > forged my email address, so, yeah, there's a lot of small-time nastiness > out there, and so I *do* secure it as best I can. > > I ought to email him, and see if he still feels that way. He still did last time we talked about it, which wasn't too many months ago. Although some of the potential legal nastiness, particular if it's done deliberately as a frame rather than just exploiting the open bandwidth, does seem to be starting to worry him just a little. (Also he's in the position of being a more likely potential target for such things than most of us.) >> There are two issues I see with wireless network security. > <snip> >> It's certainly very handy to have access to wireless when I visit >> friends, >> go to parties, and so forth. I have an unsecured network of my own at >> home that I turn on for parties (fairly small bandwidth). > > Right. If I trust someone to come over who wants to use a laptop/netbook, > I trust 'em enough to hand them the WPA key. I *don't* trust a wardriver > at all. Trouble is, a good key is enough trouble to type in that lots of people don't get it right, so there's *support* work too. So my party network is open. Maybe I should load it onto a thumb drive to pass around; though that wouldn't help people like me that might want it on a smartphone or tablet (mini-tabled, Nokia N800 in my case) that doesn't read USB drives. But it at least covers the laptop people. -- David Dyer-Bennet, dd-b at dd-b.net; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Dragaera: http://dragaera.info