On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: > centos-bounces at centos.org wrote: >> On 4/11/2011 10:55 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: >>> centos-bounces at centos.org wrote: >>> >>>> The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases. >>> >>> This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS. >> >> That's only true if you think the CentOS team is incapable of matching >> some definition of 'timely'. > > Proved to be so, with great pain for some. > > To take a relativistic approach, entities (people or corporations) who > are uncomfortable with CentOS's notion of "timely" will be less so with > RH's notion of "timely", since RHEL defines the product for which we're > waiting. RH is the Time(0) of the process. > > Speed costs money, time costs money and/or patience. > > You must either shell out the money for RHEL, or you must shell out time > for CentOS. Considering you follow the "it's released when it's ready" mantra, what are you comfortable with ? A one month delay between upstream and CentOS ? Two months ? Three months (CentOS 5.6) ? Four months ? Five months ? Six months (CentOS 6.0) ? When it's ready ? Regarding CentOS 5.6, all users using it should not have a problem if the security updates are 3 months behind ? Maybe in 12 months Karanbir has a kid, Johnny disappears again. Would four months be acceptable ? Maybe five months ? No no, it's released when it's ready. Even if it takes 6 months and the next release is out before CentOS is ready ? 3 months is halfway through the release, so you're vulnerable to security problems 50% of the time. If you graph the releases since 2005, you can see it's becoming longer and longer. It never took 3 months before. A new base release never took 5 months. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS I have been ringing the alarm-bell 2 years ago (CentOS 4.8) and nothing has changed. But hey, don't let me spoil your dinner, there is no problem. It's free, so questioning things is out of order. http://dag.wieers.com/blog/centos-48-finally-there The comments I got both came from the CentOS team, so you know where you stand if you provide a critical voice. I no longer expect any change. -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, info at dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors]