On 04/11/2011 03:10 PM, Dag Wieers wrote: > On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote: >> >>> Considering you follow the "it's released when it's ready" mantra, what >> [ ... ] >>> I no longer expect any change. >> >> Then why are you always coming back here to voice your concerns >> if you don't expect any change? > > Convince me otherwise. These concerns are not just my concerns, I have had > companies calling me for more information or advice because these > questions go unanswered. > > But few people dare to raise their voice on this list. > > There have been interviews by CentOS developers on popular websites in the > past promising improvements to how the project is organized, but releases > take longer and development/QA stays closed. Why is that ? /putting on asbestos pants. each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows, so the reverse-engineering takes longer and longer. Perhaps the tact to take is to apply pressure to the upstream provider to release the build details? I am sure that many folks who start with CentOS, grow to be large and move to RH proper. So there is, I would venture, an argument to be made that RH providing this info to CentOS and helping CentOS thrive would be beneficial for their business. -- Digimer E-Mail: digimer at alteeve.com AN!Whitepapers: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin: http://nodeassassin.org