Hi, Since I was the one who created this topic (with different purpose) let me suggest that after the 5.6/6.0 release consider a 'business model' for the CentOS. And by business model I mean take some time to: a) Evaluate _if_ one or more paid staff would ease some of the taks that must be done by the core team b) If a) is true set up a campaign to raise the money pretty much as wikipedia does (we need X $$ to cover those costs) c) Prepare some communication protocol for those tasks (technical etc) to gather more people and let them informed For me it is hard to offer to help (besides downloading and using the packages) if I do not know what is really involved, expected to be done or how much time would be necessary. For example, let's say I have 1h/day or week to help and no programming skills. What tasks could I do, and so on. Again communication. I have mixed feelings. In one hand I know this is a community-driven-no-guarantees and in the other I feel in the dark without any sense of progress/future and I depend on CentOS for my business. Since I like the long term support philosophy and being a Fedora/CentOS user for a long time (i.e like the way the distro works) there is actually no other option since RedHat ($) is too expensive. Regards. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > On 02/16/2011 09:03 AM, Larry Vaden wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> > wrote: > >> > >> Because they also have $dayjobs too ... Oracle (with billions of dollars > >> and unlimited machines and personnel) just released their el6 on Friday. > >> > >> Is there some reason you can't buy RHEL6? > > > > Johnny et al, > > > > If ya'll are masochists (as might be indicated by the turning off of > > even the donation input if I understand correctly), then hit DELETE > > now. Of course, like Dennis Miller, I could be wrong about that. > > > > You hear/read quite a few folks saying the equivalent of something > > like "corporations favor subscriptions over donations.' > > > > Give them a chance to put their money where their mouth is :) > > > > A friend at FedEx told me yesterday they buy the $8600 licenses from > > Redhat and the $10K plus licenses from VMware and feel good about it > > because there is a team taking care of their security at the OS level. > > > > While it wouldn't produce "unlimited machines and personnel," if you > > could find a wordsmith/lawyer on the list or elsewhere who is willing > > to pro bono wordsmith "subcribe/donate" in a fashion acceptable to the > > CentOS core team, thus keeping you folks happy that you are only > > getting donations rather than subscriptions, it seems like you could > > at least raise enough money for a couple of the fastest machines known > > to man to help with the builds. > > The problem will be that if you PAY anyone for doing things, everyone > wants to be paid. (Remember the Ubuntu fiasco with getting a release > done). > > The CentOS Project can not afford to hire and pay someone a full salary > to do nothing but CentOS full time. If the project could do that, then > they would. But, if they did hire said person, then what would the > OTHER volunteer guys do? Why would they stay around if "Billy Bob" is > getting paid for his work? > > If we could hire 3 or 4 people (and provide any kind of reasonable job > security for their future), that might be an option. Otherwise I think > injecting a limited amount of cash into the process just produces hurt > feelings and degrades, not improves, the process. > > That is just one thought ... > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110216/0149054f/attachment-0004.html>